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Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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Post by jazzyjackson »

throwoutway wrote: post #102
lettergram wrote: post #83

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The CDC recently admitted as much. People can test positive for covid weeks after initially testing positive. Which implies they still are shedding the virus. https://twitter.com/abc/status/1476189028982702080?s=21

This happened to me. I tested positive a month after infection (was testing once or twice a week). I isolated anyways to be safe

I thought I was meant to be testing every few days after my symptoms subsided until finally a nurse on the phone said “why do you need a test, you’re going to be have a positive result the next three months”

Apparently PCR tests and antigen tests differ in this regard, but RIP to our insurance providers paying for millions of redundant tests

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Post by WalterBright »

Jensson wrote: post #159
WalterBright wrote: post #134

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This was related to me by my father, who had pneumonia as a teen and it nearly killed him. He was allergic to penicillin, and had to endure without it.

Did he really say "we all got pneumonia in our lungs"? Pneumonia is inflammation in your lungs, that isn't normal. You die from it when it fills your lungs with pus and blood, pus and blood in your lungs isn't normal either.

Streptococcus pneumoniae

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Post by jdavis703 »

lucb1e wrote: post #146
lettergram wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The CDC recently admitted as much. People can test positive for covid weeks after initially testing positive. Which implies they still are shedding the virus. https://twitter.com/abc/status/1476189028982702080?s=21

Not a native speaker. Just to clarify: shedding the virus means being infectious? Or just their body is still doing cleanup but not necessarily that the virus is still intact and contagious/infectious? (The dictionary entry for shedding doesn't feel specific enough to draw conclusions from.)

The sibling comment answered this. But pro-tip, use an industry dictionary to define jargon.

In this case a medical dictionary might help. For reference here’s what the Merriam Webster Medical Dictionary says:

To discharge usually gradually from the body (e.g. exposed persons may shed virus from the oropharynx)

Re: Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid despite strict measures

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Post by claytongulick »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #179
claytongulick wrote: post #140

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You don't want people who have medical degrees and are experts in their field treating you? Because you have a better understanding of this than they do? That seems like a strange position to take. I would take a different position, like "what do these highly qualified health care workers understand that I don't?"

I would take a different position, like "what do these highly qualified health care workers understand that I don't?" I’m all ears. On the face of it, getting vaccinated is a no brainer. I’d love to hear a medical reason for healthy individuals not to get vaccinated. So far I’ve only heard arguments about vaccine mandates infringing on peoples rights, even though they never batted an eyelid at other vaccines. Why is…

Having natural immunity is an excellent reason, according to all of the studies I've read.

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Post by claytongulick »

mikeyouse wrote: post #175
belltaco wrote: post #171

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What percentage of doctors are unvaccinated? Or is there atleast a number or some reporting on doctors getting fired for refusing vaccinations? >I would take a different position, like "what do these highly qualified health care workers understand that I don't?" Examples?

It’s literally the dumbest line of logic and my barely literate neighbor justifies his antivax status with the same theory. “What do the doctors who have declined the vaccine know that I don’t” Even though over 99% of practicing doctors and something like 99.9% of hospitalists are vaccinated, they hold up that 1/1,000 as some sort of “truthsayer”. If 999 experts in a field told you they trusted something and 1/1,000…

Well, I personally know three and have seen many videos of others who feel that the risks outweigh the benefits for healthy people who have natural immunity.

So, that's more than one.

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

claytongulick wrote: post #184
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #179

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I would take a different position, like "what do these highly qualified health care workers understand that I don't?" I’m all ears. On the face of it, getting vaccinated is a no brainer. I’d love to hear a medical reason for healthy individuals not to get vaccinated. So far I’ve only heard arguments about vaccine mandates infringing on peoples rights, even though they never batted an eyelid at other vaccines. Why is…

Having natural immunity is an excellent reason, according to all of the studies I've read.

No it’s not because the risk of getting serious illness is/was much higher compared to any vaccine. The risk of death is certainly higher. Again getting vaccinated is a no brainer on the face of it.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

VHRanger wrote: post #69
coding123 wrote: post #66

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Ebola's going to be the next "fun" one that pops up. https://www.science.org/content/article/new-ebola-outbreak-l...

It would have to change transmission mechanism. Until then unlikely

Well once TikTok memes us into acting like zombies…

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Post by viking1066 »

juskrey wrote: post #106
petercooper wrote: post #25

Viruses are interesting things. I once enjoyed a case study about an outbreak of common cold on an Antarctic base that only happened after 17 weeks of isolation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2130424/ (I'm no virologist but given that the common cold didn't seem to be impacted by the severe lockdowns in the UK at all, whereas flu was, I've gotten the - uneducated - feeling the cold is a bit like some S…

After years of self-observations I have a petty theory that, in addition to outside infections, we always have a zoo of cold viruses inside, and different factors trigger them from time to time. I am quite surprised this is never discussed and mentioned by scientific community. BTW for some other viruses this is well documented and acknowledged, but with cold/flu/covid we seem to suffer worldwide scientific amnesia.

Sorry I can't find the article, perhaps drowned in covid articles however:

There is a well known research paper from years ago showing that both exposure to cold temperatures and exposure to cold virus could cause cold symptoms, if I recollect right 30% probability when subjects were intentionally exposed to virus, 10% when exposed to cold temperatures. I don't recall the control group results.

This is consistent with covid appearing as an outbreak out of nowhere.

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Post by jcranmer »

claytongulick wrote: post #184
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would take a different position, like "what do these highly qualified health care workers understand that I don't?" I’m all ears. On the face of it, getting vaccinated is a no brainer. I’d love to hear a medical reason for healthy individuals not to get vaccinated. So far I’ve only heard arguments about vaccine mandates infringing on peoples rights, even though they never batted an eyelid at other vaccines. Why is…

Having natural immunity is an excellent reason, according to all of the studies I've read.

From what I've seen, there is no risk in being vaccinated when you already have prior infection, and there are benefits to doing so. So I don't see why prior infection would constitute a good medical reason to avoid vaccination.

(Aside: it is worth noting that vaccination also induces "natural immunity", as it introduces viral units [via various mechanisms depending on specific vaccine type] that cause the immune system to work more or less the same way as it would if presented with a regular viral infection. So using the term "natural immunity" when what you really mean is "prior infection" smacks quite heavily of chemophobia.)

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Post by dylan604 »

brainbag wrote: post #173
sneak wrote: post #163

They didn't fare much better with alien shapeshifters, either.

Peter Watts wrote a short story from the perspective of The Thing. It's very good, like all his work. https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/

Thanks for this. Never would have thought of this perspective for myself. "What would the alien be thinking?"
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