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Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by trulyme »

InTheArena wrote: post #262
userbinator wrote: post #102

For affected Model 3 owners, Tesla has pledged to install a new cable harness and guide protector free of charge. Wiring harness flexing and chafing is a decades-old well-known problem with well-known solutions. I wonder what the people who designed that area are thinking now, when they were presumably trying to save costs? If Teslas' issues were specific to being EVs or otherwise new functionality specific to its ca…

you are making a presumption there in terms of the engineering. I think the Model 3 (And Model S) where the first two major production cars from a new vendor - who didn't necessarily have the institutional knowledge. That said, I have had a Honda Odyssey, that has had four major return to shop events in it's lifespan. I had two Honda that had to have their airbags replaced. A VW that had a alternator reknowned for ru…

Sure. But the examples you have listed are all on pretty complex systems while hood latch seems very basic. It makes me wonder which issues Tesla didn't recall cars for.

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Post by jazzyjackson »

theshadowknows wrote: post #155
userbinator wrote: post #102

For affected Model 3 owners, Tesla has pledged to install a new cable harness and guide protector free of charge. Wiring harness flexing and chafing is a decades-old well-known problem with well-known solutions. I wonder what the people who designed that area are thinking now, when they were presumably trying to save costs? If Teslas' issues were specific to being EVs or otherwise new functionality specific to its ca…

My understanding of the automotive industry is that they cut corners everywhere they can because they know it’ll save more money than a lawsuit or recall will cost. Do they do these things and when someone dies or raises a stink only then do they do the recall.

I watched “Fight Club” too, good flic.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by jazzyjackson »

ajross wrote: post #178
userbinator wrote: post #102

For affected Model 3 owners, Tesla has pledged to install a new cable harness and guide protector free of charge. Wiring harness flexing and chafing is a decades-old well-known problem with well-known solutions. I wonder what the people who designed that area are thinking now, when they were presumably trying to save costs? If Teslas' issues were specific to being EVs or otherwise new functionality specific to its ca…

Is this at all an abnormal issue? I've had cable run failures myself in other cars. It's a pretty routine thing, I think. It rises to the level of a recall here only because the device on the other end of the wire is the backup camera. It's amazing the amount of attention the simple fact of "TESLA!" can bring to the most mundane and normal issues. It's... an inspection recall. People will just schedule a service visi…

Do Tesla folks make house calls?

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by josephcsible »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #273
ajross wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this at all an abnormal issue? I've had cable run failures myself in other cars. It's a pretty routine thing, I think. It rises to the level of a recall here only because the device on the other end of the wire is the backup camera. It's amazing the amount of attention the simple fact of "TESLA!" can bring to the most mundane and normal issues. It's... an inspection recall. People will just schedule a service visi…

Do Tesla folks make house calls?

Yes. They refer to them as "mobile service".

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by dqv »

wumpus wrote: post #246
dqv wrote: post #82

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If I see my bestie in a Tessie, I will be happy for them, but much like you I'm OK with a more conservative choice until something like the Tesla EV's becomes the conservative choice.

If you want a more conservative BEV choice, buy a Bolt.

I've looked at it, but I have a good decade.5 on my current car so it will be one of those things I check on in the future.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by panick21_ »

Dah00n wrote: post #176
panick21_ wrote: post #158

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Tesla finances and number of EV produced have already proven everything that needed to be proven. Unless you want to argue this recall is gone have some massive impact on their finances its pretty much non issue. And arguing that would of course be nonsense.

>Tesla finances and number of EV produced have already proven everything that needed to be proven. It reads like you mean this in a positive way. I see it as the exact opposite. Tesla have made very few cars unless you compare it to brands like Lamborghini or other speciality cars. VW EVs already outsell Tesla even though they are just ramping up. Tesla's finances is also almost completely based on non-car sales. If…

Perpetuating the same garbage you read on twitter? Do some actual research. Literally everything you said is false.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by wumpus »

dqv wrote: post #275
wumpus wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want a more conservative BEV choice, buy a Bolt.

I've looked at it, but I have a good decade.5 on my current car so it will be one of those things I check on in the future.

The joke is that GM had to recall 100% of them to replace their batteries because of a fire hazard.

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Post by mehrdada »

asddubs wrote: post #251
mehrdada wrote: post #249

I had the Model S frunk open in front of me while driving. Lucky to be alive. On my last Model S (2018 model year), I was driving up on a bridge and it suddenly opened and blocked my forward visibility, with a trailer on my right. The vehicle was looked at by service a number of times because I got intermittent “Front trunk hood status unknown” (which I had also seen on a couple loaner Model S’s) and service despite…

yikes. so it was an electronic failure, where the computer decided that the hood goes up now, not a mechanical one?

That was my understanding. Ironically the "emergency escape button" inside the frunk is a dubious regulatory requirement for such a small space but could cause a major problem.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by [deleted] »

theshadowknows wrote: post #253
bumby wrote: post #202

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This is largely urban legend from the Corvair debacle when an internal document showed someone comparing costs of lawsuits to a cost of recall. I don’t think it ever made it into some sort of policy, it was just a math wonk running numbers

Actually I was referring to the Ford rollover thing: https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news-release/ford-hid-suv-... And to the GM ignition thing: https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/10/3/18073458/gm-car-r...

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Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by Too »

Animats wrote: post #88

Since 1966, hood latches are required to be redundant in US vehicles. That's why, when you pop the hood, it just opens a bit, and then you have to go and release a hook or something from the front. This is because, in 1950s cars, hoods flying up suddenly were a thing. Often followed by a crash. Double latches are required by 47 CFR 571. "A front opening hood which, in any open position, partially or completely obstru…

An additional safety feature of some cars is that the hood is designed to leave a gap underneath when open, allowing you to see through in an emergency.
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