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Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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I had a hood come open on a car I was driving once. It was definitely some scary shit. Luckily, I was on a long, straight road, and was able to decelerate in a controlled way and pull off the side of the road.

British vehicle?

Is common on British cars? The only other time I've known it to happen was on a family friend's MG a long time ago

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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For affected Model 3 owners, Tesla has pledged to install a new cable harness and guide protector free of charge. Wiring harness flexing and chafing is a decades-old well-known problem with well-known solutions. I wonder what the people who designed that area are thinking now, when they were presumably trying to save costs? If Teslas' issues were specific to being EVs or otherwise new functionality specific to its ca…

you are making a presumption there in terms of the engineering. I think the Model 3 (And Model S) where the first two major production cars from a new vendor - who didn't necessarily have the institutional knowledge. That said, I have had a Honda Odyssey, that has had four major return to shop events in it's lifespan. I had two Honda that had to have their airbags replaced. A VW that had a alternator reknowned for running backwards and destroying itself. A Honda recall that involved a kids seat suddenly becoming unlatched and possibly catapulting a child during a car crash.

It's hard to cover ever contingency.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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For affected Model 3 owners, Tesla has pledged to install a new cable harness and guide protector free of charge. Wiring harness flexing and chafing is a decades-old well-known problem with well-known solutions. I wonder what the people who designed that area are thinking now, when they were presumably trying to save costs? If Teslas' issues were specific to being EVs or otherwise new functionality specific to its ca…

They took the apple route and decided to just go ahead with it after a few months of testing. Like the fiasco of using flex cables for their macbooks. They would crack from opening and closing and would cost $800 for a new screen plus labor.

Not to be rude, but link that backs this claim?

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To you question: no idea. But I know my aunt has a Honda CR-V that needs to go back to the shop every 1-4 months to get a cable harness serviced and they have to take apart a huge part of the car to do it. I think it’s more a matter of unintended consequences. In the case of the Honda, the dealership tells her their understanding is Honda thought it was nestled away deeply enough it’d be protected. Big oops on their…

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I owned a Honda CR-V. This is very consistent with my experience with them.

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This comes just weeks after the CEO sold billions in TSLA stock to "pay taxes" when the market is in the middle of the largest bull run of all time..? Highly suspicious imho. (There's a very good chance that the ROI on any TSLA stock today will exceed the interest owed on 1 years worth of unpaid taxes... assuming you were not about to recall almost every car you've sold in the past year, that is.) I am shocked at how…

Stock options have an expiration date. A package of grants are expiring. When you exercise the options (buying the shares reserved for you at $x/ price of the stock when you were granted the options) you have to pay taxes on the delta between grant price and current market price. To cover the taxes you need cash, which requires selling shares. Net worth doesn’t mean liquid cash. He lives off loans against stock, of w…

>The IRS would not look kindly on selling shares to pay loans but not taxes.

They would not look at it unkindly, either.

They would simply charge interest on it like everybody else on this planet who has large loans and does not pay their taxes in full and on time every single year.

>I’m far from an Elon apologist but conspiracy theories that have purely legal explanations are weird

It's not a conspiracy theory that he sold $3 billion worth of TSLA between filing the recall and notifying the public. It's a public fact, and it's otherwise known as insider trading.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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This comes just weeks after the CEO sold billions in TSLA stock to "pay taxes" when the market is in the middle of the largest bull run of all time..? Highly suspicious imho. (There's a very good chance that the ROI on any TSLA stock today will exceed the interest owed on 1 years worth of unpaid taxes... assuming you were not about to recall almost every car you've sold in the past year, that is.) I am shocked at how…

not really. He had a ton of stock options that he either had to exercise, or he would loose. He also had tax implications, not to mention people like AOC making him public enemy number one for not paying taxes that are actually not legal taxes.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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To you question: no idea. But I know my aunt has a Honda CR-V that needs to go back to the shop every 1-4 months to get a cable harness serviced and they have to take apart a huge part of the car to do it. I think it’s more a matter of unintended consequences. In the case of the Honda, the dealership tells her their understanding is Honda thought it was nestled away deeply enough it’d be protected. Big oops on their…

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Rudeness is universally frowned upon. Not just here.

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I owned a Honda CR-V. This is very consistent with my experience with them.

You get a wiring harness serviced 3-12 times a year without a proper resolution? I don't believe you.

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Lookup 2018 Honda CR-V electrical issues. It’s not that uncommon.

Did you actually read any of the issues reported in the link you supplied? Those are all run-of-the-mill electrical issues, and none of them seem to indicate that they are repeatedly taking their vehicles in for service for the SAME problem in the SAME component that requires dismantling a large portion of the vehicle.

The idea that this guy's aunt is getting the same wiring harness serviced 4-12 times a year is completely absurd, but this website will eat that right up if we're in a Tesla thread.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Is this at all an abnormal issue? I've had cable run failures myself in other cars. It's a pretty routine thing, I think. It rises to the level of a recall here only because the device on the other end of the wire is the backup camera. It's amazing the amount of attention the simple fact of "TESLA!" can bring to the most mundane and normal issues. It's... an inspection recall. People will just schedule a service visi…

Or is it because the recall encompasses 20% of all the vehicles that Tesla has ever sold?

Isn't that a bit spun, though? 90% of "all the vehicles that Tesla has ever sold" were sold in the last two years. It's a brand new company ramping quickly. In fact the total number of vehicles affected here represents about... six months of production output. That's a big recall[1], but not particularly notably so. There are six-figure recalls announced every year.

I just don't understand what it is about "TESLA!" that causes people to get so terribly upset. I especially don't understand why the people who are most upset are the ones who didn't buy a Tesla and don't plan to.

[1] And again, it's just an inspection of a cable run! We're not talking about swapping a drive shaft or something.

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