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Post by tartoran »

Zircom wrote: post #83
naz wrote: post #25

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This is so common in consumer tech. Is there a name for it? Like how any new TV has horrible motion interpolation and sharpening enabled by default, or the bassiness of Bose/Beats headphones.

I hate motion interpolation with a burning passion and have made it into practically a vendetta and will turn it off anywhere I see it by any means necessary, including downloading a remote application onto my phone and using the IR blaster to turn it off in restaurants and waking up in the middle of the night at friends houses to sneakily switch it off.

For whoever what motion interpolation is also known as is the soap opera effect on movies and I agree, it looks terrible but most people don’t get it, it doesn’t bother them at all.

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Post by mr_toad »

caslon wrote: post #100
alkonaut wrote: post #29

Those of us who have been shooting large digital cameras for the past decade and are some times sad that our photos often come out unsharp in poor light compared to smartphones can at least take some joy in this “no free lunch” demonstration. If this is due to stabilization and not some background blur face detection then it’s probably not something you can (or would want to) disable. Taking a telephoto shot with a t…

You can set Apple's devices to shoot RAW, and it's usually pretty great, without the painting-like qualities of its default image processing.

RAW just means uncompressed, unlike JPEG or HEIF. You can still manipulate a RAW image.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by [deleted] »

spoonjim wrote: post #149
judge2020 wrote: post #95

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Simply adjusting light levels and sharpness wouldn't produce this good/clear of a photo in the conditions presented - AI/ML image post-processing is a hard requirement for sensors like these.

But it’s also just weird. That’s not my daughter’s skin in the photo, it’s 1000 other people’s skin blended together and textured in.

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Post by sundvor »

toss1 wrote: post #163
KarlKemp wrote: post #107

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Indeed. I wish I had a list of everyone parroting the wisdom that "it's all about the size of the lens, a smartphone can never be as good as a DSLR" so as to ignore their future opinions. Camera phones now beat cameras worth thousands of dollars with better software and larger R&D budgets, at least in low light performance and color gamut. Closely related: "It's impossible to just 'enhance' an image to make a license…

Yes, this is getting better, but it reminds me of a story from a friend who was doing work on some classified satellite imaging systems (he was in hardware, iirc) and went to an internal seminar/briefing by some experts on how, from the front to the end of the system, to get the best images for the customers. He said they went through hours of details on how the various enhancement algorithms and systems worked, and…

I saw your post got a down vote, however for eg any given webcam, the best way to improve your video for your mmeetings is likely not to upgrade the camera but to invest in better lighting (eg a couple of key lights) and optimise your visual setup (framing).

It is good advice indeed.

Still, it's amazing how processing has evolved. I took a picture of my 3yo daughter having finally fallen asleep after a bout of night terrors, in the dark light (using a Hue Ambiance in her room; best things ever) - in the S21 Ultra viewfinder I could see absolutely nothing, however after 3 seconds of a steady hand I was rewarded with a fantastic picture better lit than what my eyes had adjusted to.

(If I had any complaints, it would be that I'd like it to be darker - however I can understand why on average most would like the processed result.)

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Post by jakear »

Razengan wrote: post #220
mc32 wrote: post #177

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They need to offer an option for a "raw" image as they used to be called --which were minimally processed and were not compressed.

iOS does

How do I get this? Sick of seeing oversaturated landscapes. Edit: why is this downvoted? honest question... I'm on iOS and didn't see anything in settings.

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Post by jiggawatts »

anonymouse008 wrote: post #65
jiggawatts wrote: post #49

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Taste. It takes time and experience to develop, and the masses on average don't have it. As in, they might have developed taste for a few products, but not most products. Hence, the mass-market products are aimed at people with no taste, because that captures the largest slice of the consumers. Random examples: - In A/B tests, the typical personal will rate louder music as better. Hence, all bars and pubs turn their…

Hearing this and Steve Jobs’ critique of Microsoft, “they have no taste” is stunning. Taking the iPhone as the mass consumer computer, must mean that as a computing device the iPhone has very little taste… Which in a sense I can definitely see…

iPhones are definitely aimed at the more discerning, up-market customer. Android meanwhile is for the mass-market.

iPhones have four levels of encryption designed to thwart the likes of the FBI trying to get data out of your confiscated phones. Androids have a checkbox tick that basically says "Encryption: Yes".

iPhones have 1000-nit OLED HDR screens that are colour-managed and calibrated out of the box, and have Dolby Vision HDR system-wide.

Etc, etc...

iPhones are for people that actually care about their privacy, aren't blind, and appreciate the "small touches". Androids are for people that don't mind factory-installed crapware, as long as it's cheap.

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Post by musicale »

jiggawatts wrote: post #49
naz wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is so common in consumer tech. Is there a name for it? Like how any new TV has horrible motion interpolation and sharpening enabled by default, or the bassiness of Bose/Beats headphones.

Taste. It takes time and experience to develop, and the masses on average don't have it. As in, they might have developed taste for a few products, but not most products. Hence, the mass-market products are aimed at people with no taste, because that captures the largest slice of the consumers. Random examples: - In A/B tests, the typical personal will rate louder music as better. Hence, all bars and pubs turn their…

> Sugary, salty and fatty foods are consistently rated by typical people as more tasty than foods without them

Sweet, salty and/or fatty tastes form a pretty solid basis for many delicious snacks/hors d'oeuvres/desserts - highbrow or lowbrow - though I personally like tangy as well as textures like crunchy, creamy, chewy, spongy; and sometimes other tastes like bitter, savory, or piquant as well. These are tastes that humans (and other creatures) have developed and retained over thousands of years.

Omitting sweet/salty/creamy greatly reduces the scope of cuisine.

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Post by colechristensen »

rurp wrote: post #164

I recently got a Pixel and was disappointed to see that the stock camera app has no way to control the focus manually. I guess Google is so impressed with their post-processing they think users won't need any control. Turns out, their software isn't that great at focusing in many of the photos I take, so I need a different camera app. My only requirements are: 1. Manual focus 2. Wide angle lens support I thought a re…

Filmic pro is pretty good and supports manual focus and selecting which camera to use
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