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Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by bigyikes »

pmontra wrote: post #71
mgraczyk wrote: post #41

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On Android you can enable a "raw" mode that will capture a dng file with much less processing. You can then adjust that raw file and render it to a jpeg according to your taste. The dng will still have things like stabilization and multi-frame merging, but without those the image will almost always look horrible as others have explained.

How can we enable raw mode? I'll looked into the settings of Camera but I found only a way to disable the scent optimizer.

I use a (paid) app called Halide, but there are others out there too. I'm personally not aware of a way to do it with the native Camera app, but it would be cool if it exists.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by [deleted] »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #44
tandymodel100 wrote: post #32

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This sounds like a weird rationalization for an absurd case of technical ignorance. Like when people defended nuking hurricanes or using UV lights as a Covid therapy.

Fact is, you have no idea what kind of unsolicited postprocessing the camera in the Rittenhouse trial might or might not have performed, and neither did the court. It's a huge potential problem, and getting worse by the day.

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Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by Zircom »

naz wrote: post #25
matsemann wrote: post #12

I hate how much phones lately alters the images. Of course it most of the time makes the images look better, and cameras are a big selling point on a phone. But I don't like how my photos of people suddenly have a filter applied to the faces, how a picture of leaves during fall have vibrance exaggerated, how the sky looks clearer than it really did.

This is so common in consumer tech. Is there a name for it? Like how any new TV has horrible motion interpolation and sharpening enabled by default, or the bassiness of Bose/Beats headphones.

I hate motion interpolation with a burning passion and have made it into practically a vendetta and will turn it off anywhere I see it by any means necessary, including downloading a remote application onto my phone and using the IR blaster to turn it off in restaurants and waking up in the middle of the night at friends houses to sneakily switch it off.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by Skunkleton »

iamacyborg wrote: post #64
amelius wrote: post #47

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Not only tech. Try finding shoes or pants when your size is 1.5 times sigma away from the mean.

As a 5’5 dude buying clothes from American brands is often hilarious. I bought an xs nike trail running tshirt and it’s a good 5 inches too long in the body.

I'm a 6'6" dude and I feel your pain. Every time I get company swag, the best they can offer me is a super wide belly shirt :(

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

implying wrote: post #26

This reminds me of Huawei camera app detecting pictures of the moon and superimposing a clear stock photo into your picture: https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-p30-pro-moon-mode-co...

That‘s hilarious. The way AI is developing we are turned into children full of magical thinking like „I made a great moonshot with my amazing device!“ when it‘s actually 99% AI handholding.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by Benjamin_Dobell »

laumars wrote: post #45
naz wrote: post #25

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This is so common in consumer tech. Is there a name for it? Like how any new TV has horrible motion interpolation and sharpening enabled by default, or the bassiness of Bose/Beats headphones.

I’ve never owned Bose nor Beats specifically but more generally I find bassiness is a desirable feature rather than a gimmick for dumb consumers. With room sized speakers it’s not a problem because you’ll have multiple cones dedicated to the low end and usually some subs too. Thus it’s easy to have a rich low end without sacrificing the fidelity of the higher end. But with headphones that’s much harder to pull off. S…

> I find bassiness is a desirable feature rather than a gimmick for dumb consumers

It's perfectly reasonable to find bass a desirable quality. Depending on my mood I'll listen to music with lots of bass, or with little bass. However, I've zero desire to intentionally alter the frequency response so I'm hearing something different than the musicians and mixing engineer intended. Instead I'll just listen to appropriate music for my mood/taste.

Intentionally having a non-flat frequency response is equivalent to adjusting the colour space / colour grading of your monitor to not accurately represent colours. You can do it, and there are reasons why you might want to do it temporarily e.g. blue light filtering in the evening. However, doing so permanently without a specific (medical?) reason is a bit unusual.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by ALittleLight »

tandymodel100 wrote: post #32
kahrl wrote: post #20

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Yes, yes really. When real resolution is being substituted with the best guess of a completely closed source image processor, the court should be made aware of it.

This sounds like a weird rationalization for an absurd case of technical ignorance. Like when people defended nuking hurricanes or using UV lights as a Covid therapy.

It's perfectly reasonable to ask what image processing is done to get an enhanced image.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by ramesh31 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #49
naz wrote: post #25

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This is so common in consumer tech. Is there a name for it? Like how any new TV has horrible motion interpolation and sharpening enabled by default, or the bassiness of Bose/Beats headphones.

Taste. It takes time and experience to develop, and the masses on average don't have it. As in, they might have developed taste for a few products, but not most products. Hence, the mass-market products are aimed at people with no taste, because that captures the largest slice of the consumers. Random examples: - In A/B tests, the typical personal will rate louder music as better. Hence, all bars and pubs turn their…

> Sugary, salty and fatty foods are consistently rated by typical people as more tasty than foods without them. Hence, all fast-food restaurants load their foods up with those elements instead of more expensive flavourings such as herbs and spices.

I love this one. Want to convince someone with an unsophisticated palette that you are the greatest chef in history? Just start loading everything you make with butter and sugar. Salty and sweet === good to most people.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by osivertsson »

I sometimes hang out on mountainbike forums.

A user posts that despite a new chain and setting up their rear derailleur according to instructions gear-changes are clunky or the chain skips when applying power on the pedals.

The usual reply from the forum members is then to send a photo of the cassette since excessive wear there leads to these problems.

This used to clearly show that the user needed to replace their worn cassette too.

Lately these photos of cassettes can look all mangled. Like ML tried to “enhance” mountains or the back of an alligator or some other structure from nature on to the cassette.

This has to be a problem in all sorts of technical trouble-shooting.

Re: iPhone camera app replaces person’s head with a leaf in photo

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Post by GenerocUsername »

Gigachad wrote: post #63
alkonaut wrote: post #29

Those of us who have been shooting large digital cameras for the past decade and are some times sad that our photos often come out unsharp in poor light compared to smartphones can at least take some joy in this “no free lunch” demonstration. If this is due to stabilization and not some background blur face detection then it’s probably not something you can (or would want to) disable. Taking a telephoto shot with a t…

No free lunch, but an incredibly good value lunch. The quality that comes out of phone cameras is remarkable. And the times it messes up are so rare that it becomes a talking point worthy of hundreds of comments.

You guys are conflating 'adjusting light levels and sharness' with 'replacing whole objects in one area of scene with other objects from the scene'

I think this particular big demonstrates a massive gap in what people think photoprocessing is, and what it has very recently become

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