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Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Just a reminder that cars are recalled all the time and the only reason you are seeing this article is because it is Tesla. Any other manufacturer and this would be a non-story especially on HN. Did Ford recalling 185k vehicles a couple days ago make the front page of HN? How about Toyota recalling 200k vehicles also a couple days ago?[2] Maybe Honda recalling 725k vehicles a month ago?[3] EDIT: Lots of people are ta…

Just as you wouldn't see ford recalls you usually don't see them for other reasons too i.e. tesla the "not a car company" is special.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#92
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never said it was unfair. People are projecting a lot onto my comments here.

Before your edit many misinterpreted this, probably because the links you mention are not equal/close to equal and therefore not comparable to discuss.

I was limiting my search to recent weeks to highlight the frequency of these recalls, but that means there weren't limitless examples to choose from. Despite that, the Honda recall I linked to in my first comment was bigger in terms of total vehicles. I expanded that timeframe in another reply and linked to a Honda recall of 1.4m vehicles which is bigger in relation to annual vehicles sold.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#93
post #19

Just a reminder that cars are recalled all the time and the only reason you are seeing this article is because it is Tesla. Any other manufacturer and this would be a non-story especially on HN. Did Ford recalling 185k vehicles a couple days ago make the front page of HN? How about Toyota recalling 200k vehicles also a couple days ago?[2] Maybe Honda recalling 725k vehicles a month ago?[3] EDIT: Lots of people are ta…

Ford trades at a Price to Earning ratio of 29. Fold also owns a 10% stake of Rivian.

Tesla ratio is 351.

It _does_ matter more when Tesla slips up. The expectations from this company are much higher. Your point would be valid if the expectations from all these companies were same.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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The rear camera MAY fail issue seems pretty benign. When it fails go get it fixed? Or is that no longer a permitted approach. These recalls used to be for things major. Now we are getting a recall over what would be a warranty claim? Can they not just extend warranty coverage in this year to something like 10 years?

Backup cameras are considered required safety equipment, I assume, since they’ve been required for years. So I don’t think Tesla has any choice in this.

The much smaller Model S recall seems like the bigger deal to me. Obviously having the frunk open while you’re driving would be pretty bad.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#96
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Battery car fires are much more likely to make it in to the news than your every day combustion engine vehicle fire which are far more numerous.

For reasons including the ratio of such cars on the road, and the relative ease of putting out an ICE fire versus a multi-day un-extinguishable lithium battery fire. An NHTSA study in 2018 predicts that the rate of such fires will be "somewhat comparable" between vehicle types, it's the duration and severity of the fires that differ.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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They also ranks first in customer satisfaction survey -- 4 years running: https://thedriven.io/2021/11/15/tesla-dominate-top-10-most-s...

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"Loyal" means something different than they simply like their car? Why is it painted as somehow disqualifying?

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#98
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see also: Tesla ranks almost dead last on Consumer Reports reliability list https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/Tesla-ranks-almost-dead-... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/tesla-model-s-no-longer-reco... I hope this doesn't come across as excessively smug but I think my life, level of stress and personal finances are measurably improved by owning something that is closer to a $9000 Toyota Corolla and spending money o…

I see Tesla as more of a lighter under the incumbents' collective ass than a car manufacturer, but nevertheless I think I'll eventually get one, because they're still ahead of the competition and I don't actually need a daily driver anymore.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#99
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Just a reminder that cars are recalled all the time and the only reason you are seeing this article is because it is Tesla. Any other manufacturer and this would be a non-story especially on HN. Did Ford recalling 185k vehicles a couple days ago make the front page of HN? How about Toyota recalling 200k vehicles also a couple days ago?[2] Maybe Honda recalling 725k vehicles a month ago?[3] EDIT: Lots of people are ta…

Also, "recall" sounds like the cars have to physically move back to the factory. Reality: I took 10 sec to schedule a visit from a Mobile Technician who'll do the work in my driveway while I go on living my life. Big non-issue.

It may be a big non-issue for you, but having to deploy mobile technicians to a significant percentage of their customers' driveways sounds like a very real issue for Tesla.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

#100
post #19

Just a reminder that cars are recalled all the time and the only reason you are seeing this article is because it is Tesla. Any other manufacturer and this would be a non-story especially on HN. Did Ford recalling 185k vehicles a couple days ago make the front page of HN? How about Toyota recalling 200k vehicles also a couple days ago?[2] Maybe Honda recalling 725k vehicles a month ago?[3] EDIT: Lots of people are ta…

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