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Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by drsnow »

notyourwork wrote: post #23
0x0000000 wrote: post #15

The first time I quit smoking, I used an e-cig to help quit, and it was great. But eventually I started smoking again, and so I tried to use an e-cig like the previous time. But circumstances were different, e-cigs were different (nicotine salts), and now I consume 2x the nicotine than I did from a pack of smokes. It's too good. It's convenient, always on you, always ready to go. No unpleasant taste or smell. No need…

> No need to go outside in the winter. Smokers/vapers, stop giving the rest of society more reasons to dislike your habits.

Vapor is not problematic second-hand, smoke is. The two are incomparable.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by tragictrash »

drsnow wrote: post #61
notyourwork wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No need to go outside in the winter. Smokers/vapers, stop giving the rest of society more reasons to dislike your habits.

Vapor is not problematic second-hand, smoke is. The two are incomparable.

You don't know that, it hasn't been around long enough. You don't have proof that it is harmful, but you don't have proof it isn't either.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by etaioinshrdlu »

boeingUH60 wrote: post #58
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? To see if I could. This is Hacker News.

You must be unique then. Isn’t there a possibility of addiction leading to some nasty side effects you may not want? I’m just asking, not really familiar with vaping stuff.

I wasn't overly worried about it, I could always use nicotine gum if I felt I had to.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by notyourwork »

drsnow wrote: post #61
notyourwork wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No need to go outside in the winter. Smokers/vapers, stop giving the rest of society more reasons to dislike your habits.

Vapor is not problematic second-hand, smoke is. The two are incomparable.

I'm not sure anyone is able to conclude one way or the other. I'd like to make the choice about what my lungs consume and not have some person decide because they are ignorant.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by LarrySellers »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #63
boeingUH60 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You must be unique then. Isn’t there a possibility of addiction leading to some nasty side effects you may not want? I’m just asking, not really familiar with vaping stuff.

I wasn't overly worried about it, I could always use nicotine gum if I felt I had to.

Please don't try again, I'm not trying to be condescending. If not for yourself, for the people you love. Nicotine addiction is particularly insidious.

Lots of people gave me this advice the few times I was addicted, I ignored them all and simply thought they were talking down to me ("of course, I know it's bad for you", "I can quit whenever I want") so I understand if you interpret it that way. Once you've seen yourself or a loved one go through it and survive (or worse) you have a different reaction, a bit like seeing someone standing on the tracks while a train is approaching. Wishing you good health.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by aurizon »

redweer wrote: post #6
aurizon wrote: post #2

4 of my friends who smoked 1-2 packs/day were able to transition to smoking alternatives, 2 went to nicotine pills, 4 Mg from Walmart, stayed on 2-3 of those/day from the morning. The other 2 went to suck-in inhalers. None of them went to visible cloud of smoke emitters. They all eliminated their prior shortness of breath problem, when biking/jogging. I never ever smoked, but I find the 4 Mg pills are good for appeti…

thanks for sharing, I can relate a bit. I was a bike courier in San Francisco off and on for a few summers and it was a very fun/hard job. It was mostly legal docs going back and forth between the courthouses and the financial district. This was several years back. Anyways, I aspire to be riding my bike when I'm 82!

Much the same doc pattern here - legal and architectural/engineering drawings and small stuff - could even be drugs - I never looked?. Back in the day you carried pagers and they had a lookup book with a number to get a package at #86 - you look it up = go get -take there, give invoice copy - paid that stuff monthly. Some were get #58, $22 - go to 58 get package and prepaid $22 - take there. We speculated some of these were drugs, but we just carried and asked no questions -esp if a house/apt at each end I aspire to be riding at 90...if I make it...

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by drsnow »

notyourwork wrote: post #64
drsnow wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vapor is not problematic second-hand, smoke is. The two are incomparable.

I'm not sure anyone is able to conclude one way or the other. I'd like to make the choice about what my lungs consume and not have some person decide because they are ignorant.

Don't vape then. If someone in public is vaping near you, walk away.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by drsnow »

tragictrash wrote: post #62
drsnow wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vapor is not problematic second-hand, smoke is. The two are incomparable.

You don't know that, it hasn't been around long enough. You don't have proof that it is harmful, but you don't have proof it isn't either.

I don't know it but I don't have to. I don't have to prove a negative. It's on you to show that it is harmful, otherwise it isn't.
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