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Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by shkkmo »

wyldfire wrote: post #58
sktrdie wrote: post #40

I think of Satoshi as a genius for the invention. Unfortunately the invention is causing a global climate crisis. Similar to how Einstein's laws helped create the atomic bomb.

> Unfortunately the invention is causing a global climate crisis. This is straight up bonkers. Yes: humanity's energy consumption is likely the cause of climate change. But the energy consumed goes into a lot of outputs: shelter, transportation, entertainment, commerce. You could legitimately regard proof-of-work as an inefficiency whose cost keeps increasing. If proof-of-stake is sufficient, then it's remarkably ine…

Bitcoin isn't the only culprit, but it certainly isn't helping.

> But it produces something useful.

That is debatable, but even if it does, it does it at a much higher energy cost than the preexisting alternatives.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by LinuxBender »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #57

> This is not a TOR exit node which implies that this is the IP address used by Satoshi on 2009-01-10 How do we know it was not a tor exit node in January 2009?

One might use the ExoneraTor [1]

[1] - https://metrics.torproject.org/exonerator.html?ip=68.164.57....

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by jandrese »

xunn0026 wrote: post #46
sktrdie wrote: post #40

I think of Satoshi as a genius for the invention. Unfortunately the invention is causing a global climate crisis. Similar to how Einstein's laws helped create the atomic bomb.

Quoted post unavailable.

It's certainly not helping. Bitcoin is astoundingly energy hungry and produces effectively nothing with the energy consumed. Textbook definition of wasteful behavior.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by ryantgtg »

drawkbox wrote: post #52
petertodd wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Maybe on vacation or a wireless connection that connected near there. Bitcoin had been released a few days prior to that log file. So unlikely to be on vacation. As I mentioned in another comment, the IRC seeding mechanism isn't necessary to use Bitcoin, and it was publicly released at the time, so no reason to assume this is Satoshi.

Potentially just living there, or there for something, or a false positive. > Bitcoin had been released a few days prior to that log file. So unlikely to be on vacation. Vacations are great for after shipping though, after the long slog of a project. Since it was new it would be a good time to escape before all the support requests and more usage increased. Maybe they couldn't stay away from that draw and then got a…

And Van Nuys is a premiere vacation destination. I’m sure he was feeling the pull toward that idyllic locale more than ever after that long slog.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by Cantinflas »

deafsquid69 wrote: post #33

The keys can move without the coins moving. Think of it like the ultimate Casascius coins. There's no way to know whether or not Satoshi cashed out. I can't find the thread, but I'm pretty sure Adam Back even said this on bitcointalk and said that that would be how he'd move the money if he were Satoshi.

How could that work? If I sell you a private key, then you get the private key, and I get the money... and the private key. You either move them right away or risk me moving them (or me selling the private key again to another guy)

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by WoodenChair »

tablespoon wrote: post #71
drawkbox wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nick Szabo has been potentially mentioned as Satoshi for sometime [1] due to him working on decentralized currencies since 1998 with Bit Gold [2]. Elon Musk mentioned Nick Szabo on Lex Fridman's podcast as Szabo was also doing Bit Gold prior and is heavy into crypto and currencies. [3] > "Obviously I don't know who created bitcoin ... it seems as though Nick Szabo is probably more than anyone else responsible for the…

> Elon Musk mentioned Nick Szabo on Lex Fridman's podcast as Szabo was also doing Bit Gold prior and is heavy into crypto and currencies. [3] >> "Obviously I don't know who created bitcoin ... it seems as though Nick Szabo is probably more than anyone else responsible for the evolution of those ideas," said Musk, adding, "he claims not to be Nakamoto ... but he seems to be the one more responsible for the ideas behin…

> Why do Elon Musk's speculations have any credibility here? It's not his field, and even in his field he has a track record of making confident public statements that turn out to be wildly wrong.

Actually it's very much his field. Elon Musk was one of the founders of X.com which eventually merged to become PayPal. He was interested in digital currency since the '90s and has been active in the cryptocurrency space as well.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by nullc »

wallacoloo wrote: post #55
eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 wrote: post #7

EDIT: Please explain in the comments - because I seriously do not understand that - why on earth you are downvoting this!? You're advocating something cruel. WTF? What is the problem about saying "leave a person alone who apparently WANTS to be left alone?". You're advocating stalking. The people who trying to figure out who Satoshi is and make it public should realize this: What they're effectively doing is trying t…

i agree with the sentiment, however, it’s wishful thinking. Bitcoin exists in a space within game theory where everyone is in a constant adversarial relation with everyone else. it’s an explicit design, and that relationship is the only way we really know that the software and cryptography are sound. but you can’t completely isolate the protocol from its surroundings. the adversarial challenge of trying to break the…

> remains pseudonymous under the extreme pressure of thousands trying to de-anonymize him, that’s the only way we can really be sure that anonymization is still possible in the modern age.

Other unwilling human beings aren't appropriate test subjects for your conjectures about security and privacy. If you'd like to test a security hypothesis, offer up yourself or your family for attack-- don't nominate other people.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by Jerrrry »

tablespoon wrote: post #71
drawkbox wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nick Szabo has been potentially mentioned as Satoshi for sometime [1] due to him working on decentralized currencies since 1998 with Bit Gold [2]. Elon Musk mentioned Nick Szabo on Lex Fridman's podcast as Szabo was also doing Bit Gold prior and is heavy into crypto and currencies. [3] > "Obviously I don't know who created bitcoin ... it seems as though Nick Szabo is probably more than anyone else responsible for the…

> Elon Musk mentioned Nick Szabo on Lex Fridman's podcast as Szabo was also doing Bit Gold prior and is heavy into crypto and currencies. [3] >> "Obviously I don't know who created bitcoin ... it seems as though Nick Szabo is probably more than anyone else responsible for the evolution of those ideas," said Musk, adding, "he claims not to be Nakamoto ... but he seems to be the one more responsible for the ideas behin…

Same thing with Bill Gates: they pay for advisory.

Nick is Satoshi. It pains me to type that out.

We were always supposed to look for Satoshi, never to find him.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by aeternum »

tablespoon wrote: post #71
drawkbox wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nick Szabo has been potentially mentioned as Satoshi for sometime [1] due to him working on decentralized currencies since 1998 with Bit Gold [2]. Elon Musk mentioned Nick Szabo on Lex Fridman's podcast as Szabo was also doing Bit Gold prior and is heavy into crypto and currencies. [3] > "Obviously I don't know who created bitcoin ... it seems as though Nick Szabo is probably more than anyone else responsible for the…

> Elon Musk mentioned Nick Szabo on Lex Fridman's podcast as Szabo was also doing Bit Gold prior and is heavy into crypto and currencies. [3] >> "Obviously I don't know who created bitcoin ... it seems as though Nick Szabo is probably more than anyone else responsible for the evolution of those ideas," said Musk, adding, "he claims not to be Nakamoto ... but he seems to be the one more responsible for the ideas behin…

He was one of the creators of PayPal, so digital money is his field. If you read the quote carefully, he is also not speculating on Nakamoto. Elon instead states that Nick Szabo contributed to the ideas behind cryptocurrencies. This generally is not disputed.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by GekkePrutser »

vmception wrote: post #35
spir wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think somebody smart enough to invent Bitcoin seems likely to have been smart enough to mine coins on a separate account, knowing he would never be able to touch the genesis wallet. I think Satoshi is alive and well and enjoying his riches. Good for them

Exactly. Anybody that mined those earlier blocks on the weird unknown hardware was also able to mine on known hardware under another identity. so A) Satoshi has other earnings, in bitcoin, that was held long enough to make Satoshi extremely rich, and sold under their normal known identity. While never needing to associate with the other identity. B) The private keys to the bitcoin mined in those original blocks were…

The problem with those private keys being sold off-net is that the buyer can never be sure the seller deleted every copy. Who would take that risk? And who would buy it and not use any of it?

Even if the value tanks it'll still be a ton of money.

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