Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016) • Hacker News Board

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by db65edfc7996 » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:26 PM UTC

xqoiu wrote: post #21

eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 wrote: post #7

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Seems cheap for a man worth $100B?

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by petertodd » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:27 PM UTC

drawkbox wrote: post #16

Van Nuys, Los Angeles, CA was where the IP was located. > IP Address: 68.164.57.219 > IP Block: 68.164.57.128 – 68.164.57.255 > Reverse DNS: h-68-164-57-219.lsan.ca.dynamic.megapath.net > Host: Covad Communications. Van Nuys, CA, USA > Location: Van Nuys, CA, USA Could have even been something like Satoshi wasn't on his normal setup at the time and it slipped through. Maybe on vacation or a wireless connection that c…

> Maybe on vacation or a wireless connection that connected near there.

Bitcoin had been released a few days prior to that log file. So unlikely to be on vacation.

As I mentioned in another comment, the IRC seeding mechanism isn't necessary to use Bitcoin, and it was publicly released at the time, so no reason to assume this is Satoshi.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by deafsquid69 » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:27 PM UTC

The keys can move without the coins moving. Think of it like the ultimate Casascius coins. There's no way to know whether or not Satoshi cashed out. I can't find the thread, but I'm pretty sure Adam Back even said this on bitcointalk and said that that would be how he'd move the money if he were Satoshi.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by misiti3780 » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:27 PM UTC

Doesnt this mean that somewhere, buried deep in a a database, someone can run a query to see who had the IP address on that day, and assuming it is a private residence there is at least a chance that is SN?

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by vmception » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:28 PM UTC

spir wrote: post #15

edf13 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possibly passed away… it would be hard for anyone to resist the amount of money his early coin holding is now worth.

I think somebody smart enough to invent Bitcoin seems likely to have been smart enough to mine coins on a separate account, knowing he would never be able to touch the genesis wallet. I think Satoshi is alive and well and enjoying his riches. Good for them

Exactly. Anybody that mined those earlier blocks on the weird unknown hardware was also able to mine on known hardware under another identity.

so

A) Satoshi has other earnings, in bitcoin, that was held long enough to make Satoshi extremely rich, and sold under their normal known identity. While never needing to associate with the other identity.

B) The private keys to the bitcoin mined in those original blocks were sold for cash over the counter for very large amounts to funds with longer time horizons. Bitcoin can operate in temporarily trusted environments. Bitcoin price has tanked every time very old Bitcoin is transferred onchain, so there is no need to transfer them onchain. We would never know.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:28 PM UTC

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Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by davmar » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:29 PM UTC

drawkbox wrote: post #16

Van Nuys, Los Angeles, CA was where the IP was located. > IP Address: 68.164.57.219 > IP Block: 68.164.57.128 – 68.164.57.255 > Reverse DNS: h-68-164-57-219.lsan.ca.dynamic.megapath.net > Host: Covad Communications. Van Nuys, CA, USA > Location: Van Nuys, CA, USA Could have even been something like Satoshi wasn't on his normal setup at the time and it slipped through. Maybe on vacation or a wireless connection that c…

So I went to https://anarchapulco.com/ in 2018. There I met a guy who claimed to know who Satoshi is. He said Satoshi was from LA, and that the keys to the wallet that hold all those unclaimed bitcoins are buried in a backyard in LA. Would be worth billions now.

No idea if true.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by krapp » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:29 PM UTC

servytor wrote: post #27

edit: krapp below me is right, I AM AN IDIOT. I just ran it through an anagram website and trusted it without even checking. --- I always thought Satoshi Nakamoto was an anagram. Antonomasias ~ Satoshi Nakamoto Antonomasias: the substitution of an epithet or title for a proper name (e.g., the Bard for Shakespeare). So it seems like a play on words, because Satoshi Nakamoto is a real name, and therefore a group might…

>I always thought Satoshi Nakamoto was an anagram.

>Antonomasias ~ Satoshi Nakamoto

Doesn't work. No H or K, too many N's.

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by drawkbox » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:30 PM UTC

anm89 wrote: post #14

I feel like Hal Finney and Nick Szabo were the two people who seem plausible and the fact that Hal and Satoshi were on different IP addresses that day seems to me like it's not Hal. So for me it feels pretty much settled that Satoshi is Szabo.

Nick Szabo has been potentially mentioned as Satoshi for sometime [1] due to him working on decentralized currencies since 1998 with Bit Gold [2].

Elon Musk mentioned Nick Szabo on Lex Fridman's podcast as Szabo was also doing Bit Gold prior and is heavy into crypto and currencies. [3]

> "Obviously I don't know who created bitcoin ... it seems as though Nick Szabo is probably more than anyone else responsible for the evolution of those ideas," said Musk, adding, "he claims not to be Nakamoto ... but he seems to be the one more responsible for the ideas behind it than anyone else."

> Szabo is best known as the inventor of one of bitcoin’s predecessors, Bit Gold, and digital smart contracts—which eventually evolved to become a key part of the ethereum blockchain. Szabo has previously denied he's Satoshi Nakamoto, telling financial author Dominic Frisby in 2014, "I'm afraid you got it wrong doxing me as Satoshi, but I'm used to it."

Szabo's full name is Nicholas Szabo [4]. Just seems quite a bit like Satoshi Nakamoto. It feels like there is something there potentially.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo#Satoshi_Nakamoto_sp...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo#Bit_gold

[3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2021/12/28/elon-...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Szabo

Re: Satoshi leaked his Los Angeles IP address (2016)

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Post by sktrdie » Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 7:31 PM UTC

I think of Satoshi as a genius for the invention. Unfortunately the invention is causing a global climate crisis. Similar to how Einstein's laws helped create the atomic bomb.