You’re not alone. My startup is specifically going against the trend and trying to hire in just two locations (Austin and SF), because our founding group feels the same as you. So far when we’ve been recruiting people we lead with “we have two offices and strongly prefer candidates work in one of them.” It either ends the conversation or is our #1 selling point. I think over time the market will discover what percent…
Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?
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>Global human elimination of SARS2 Yawn. This will never happen, and no one even cares. Long covid is just 1% of 1% cases that are psychosomatic and way overblown.
In unvaccinated cases, persistent symptoms appear in ~20% of mild cases, 50% for hospitalized [0]. Vaccines prevent contracting the virus, but afaik similar rates for those that contract it. Long COVID symptoms range across many body systems including pain, fatigue, brain fog, inability to stand, heart damage, tinnitus (one CEO to the point they committed suicide [1]), kidney, and pancreatic damage. More results are…
Things aren't going back anytime soon.
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This depends on broader society accepting that COVID is endemic though, and the cessation of all sorts of regulations. I don't doubt it will happen eventually, but I'm not sure if another year is enough time. There has to be some sort of common knowledge catalyst that changes the general approach; as long as events are still being cancelled due to COVID cases, we're not out of the woods and "living with the disease"…
Endemic is not a social condition that people "accept". It means the virus is found at a baseline level without external inputs (wikipedia).
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#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
In unvaccinated cases, persistent symptoms appear in ~20% of mild cases, 50% for hospitalized [0]. Vaccines prevent contracting the virus, but afaik similar rates for those that contract it. Long COVID symptoms range across many body systems including pain, fatigue, brain fog, inability to stand, heart damage, tinnitus (one CEO to the point they committed suicide [1]), kidney, and pancreatic damage. More results are…
Plus you have a % the vaccinated population COVID with similiar symptoms or in other cases different issues. So many unrelated things seem to be failing right after the vaccine from failed root canals to general aggressiveness to people forgetting things. It seems to be hitting the above 60+ population the hardest. Things aren't going back anytime soon.
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This is the real crux. It's not that people who hate wfh want to be in the office, it's that people that hate wfh want me to be in the office. It's not that one's superior to the other, it's that one wants to force itself on the other.
That's what I've found: People who like being in the office and socializing want to force me to commute for several hours a day just so they can yak at me, disrupt my concentration, and "see" me work. No thank you. If the in-office people would just go into the office together and then deal with the remote people as we are, things would be fine. But no, the in-office extroverts want to force us all into their mold.
We could easily rework this kind of statement:
> People who like working from home want to force me to spend hours on Zoom, and subject me to constant Slack interruptions, just so they never have to "see" me, or interact with me as a complete human. No thank you.
> If the remote people would just work remotely, things would be fine. But no, when a single team member is remote, everyone has to adopt their preferred ersatz remote practices.
Of course, this is silly, nobody is trying to force anyone into a work environment that they hate--why would I want my colleagues to be miserable ?
I believe we'll end up self sorting, so everyone can be happy, and to that end there is absolutely nothing wrong with asking advice on how to find your preferred work environment, whether that's in office or remote.
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#248I'll give you an anecdote for my company (we're a software firm with developers, support staff, and sales reps): We offered hybrid and remote options to all of our employees once lockdowns ended. All of them (except for one) wanted to come back full-time, with some notable exceptions for hybrid. Some employees have kids so they went hybrid, but once schools reopened they all went back full-time in the office. The lon…
Is it the lack of communication or the lack of spontaneous socializing with coworkers? Dont get me wrong, I think the latter is probably underrated, but I dont know if thats what you are missing?
Our company also is on the older side (in longevity), even though we're a small business the company has a lot of systems in place that's not equipped for remote work. I'm really trying to change this since I firmly believe hybrid seems to be the way to go moving forward.
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> Haven't people in tech figured out how exponential growth works? What are you even taking about? We have marvelous vaccines that knock Covid to the level of a cold or mild flu for most people in the “office worker” demographic. Did you worry about “exponential growth” of the 2019 flu season? Because part of saying “Covid isn’t going away ever” means “get on with your damn life”. If Covid is here forever it becomes…
Do you understand the difference between a novel virus and the flu? > We have marvelous vaccines that knock Covid to the level of a cold or mild flu for most people in the “office worker” demographic. And now we have omicron, which is still quite infectious in spite of the vaccines. Thankfully it seems less dangerous than delta. Who knows what the next variant will bring. > Because part of saying “Covid isn’t going a…
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What the heck are you even talking about? Dude. Covid is here forever. You are vaccinated and possibly boosted. You are as safe as it is ever gonna get. Move on!
Omicron has already demonstrated that vaccine evasion is inevitable, we are vaccinating against the extinct Wuhan virus. Global human elimination of SARS2 is necessary or you will see in both your personal life and in the broader economy continued disability, death, and drags on productivity. There is some speculation that the "worker shortage" is due in part to workers with long COVID who want to return to work but…