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I’ll phrase it another way: in 2020, some number of people collectively decided it was easier to send Netflix 25 billion dollars instead of pirating movies.
It's not because it's easier. People could park in no parking zones, it would be easier, they don't because they've made a moral and/or financial judgement.
The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)
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Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)
#252Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)
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I have no doubt that one, or even thousand of seniors are pirating the latest movies. I’m not saying that people don’t pirate stuff. But Netflix has 213 million users. If pirating was really so much easier and DRM made legal options unusable, they wouldn’t. DRM sucks, but Netflix isn’t going out of business any time soon
"But Netflix has 213 million users. If pirating was really so much easier.." I am willing to bet there are more than 500 million people pirating, so I don't think this argument carries much weight. Netflix is a very 'rich western country' thing. The rest of the world exists.
The rest of the world exists but that doesn't mean they were going to be paying customers anyway.
Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)
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> This is how it goes in other countries, too, where you cannot even legitimately get disks or downloads, much less be able to afford them. Oh yes, thank you for remembering that. It's truly an exception around here. Pretty much all streaming services refuse to accept my money or provide access to 0.1-1% of their catalog (compared to what is available in the US, literally a few to a few dozen shows/movies) for exactl…
Spotify has different selection depending on the country. In the past Spotify was not available in my country, so I had to use workarounds, which meant using accounts from different countries, and jumping between them definitely changed what I was able to play from my playlists.
Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)
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> Every garage band in existence would also exist without copyright I think you are under-estimating the extent to which these people are seeking to "make it" and become profitable later. There are also lots of SV start-ups that never make any money, yet it doesn't prove that they would still exist if NONE of them EVER made any money.
I don't believe the assertion that no one would make money with creative works without copyright.
I think this is the origin and principle aim, to allow production of works professionally - with all the skill and devotion that implies - whilst protecting the creators. Copyright seems to have been steered heavily away from that aim by the usual suspects who rent-seek in preference to adding value to society.
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Popcord time created resillient dustributed video service, with no hosting costs. It is technologically superior to anything all those billion dollar companoes have ever created.
Not that resilient in the end, since it is mostly shut down.
Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)
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I try to be the Devil's advocate. The scarse resource is not that song or that movie. It's the time of the people that created that song and that movie. That's is part of the cost of production. This is similar to there are millions of houses but only a few in the most scenic places. Want one of them, pay more. It could be the same for the most popular songs and movies. The time of their creators is more valuable tha…
> The scarse resource is not that song or that movie. It's the time of the people that created that song and that movie. That's is part of the cost of production. That's not really valid, though. Time is not the thing being exchanged -- it's impossible to do that -- so isn't a resource, scarce or otherwise, in the sense we mean. On top of that, the previous commenter made an error -- property rights aren't a solution…
Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)
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>You’re severely discounting the value Netflix ... provide in discovery and ease of access. What the what? Discover on Netflix? If you mean accepting what they think you want to watch based on their curated lists of what they want you to watch shoved into your face in their carousels of boredom, then I'm going to have to disagree with you.
You don’t have to like Netflix, but as far as the UI goes, where are you finding better content discovery for shows and movies?
It would be trivial for Netflix to show imdb/rotten tomato scores, but they don't want you to easily see the masses of mediocrity in their selection.
Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)
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I do it. I'm sure a lot of people do it Nd will increasingly as number of services grows...
Quit watching your favorite show for three months? I doubt many people are willing to do this.
Unless there's a continuous series of releases that people will want to watch, I'm not sure they'll want to subscribe for an entire year: it surely adds up.
Re: The purpose of DRM is not to prevent copyright violations (2013)
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But it does, because of the effect just mentioned. 99.999% of people can take the path of least resistance while the 1 in 100,000 exception bears all of the friction for all of them. Perhaps though the real friction is not exactly technical but that the piracy sites don't have the same attention-capturing "feed" or recommendation mechanisms set up. Just the friction of having to make choices.
"99.999% of people" aren't pirating media. The profits of the media industry speaks for their own success. They are doing fine.