Why do people love Smartphones, but hate Smart TVs?
Because despite both being privacy invasive and full of ads, the smart phones fill a need of having a mobile digital connection, whereas the smart TVs do not actually fill a need for the people who dislike them? Replacing my smart phone with a dumb phone would limit my use of it severely. Replacing my smart TV with a dumb TV would be welcome, if I could find one.
Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
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Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
#292I don't like it. Having a physical object the embodies your phone's identity is a lot easier to deal with in many ways than an ethereal emulation of said object. For instance, if I'm traveling I can just buy a SIM card at a kiosk and pop it in, even if I can only communicate through little more than pointing and grunting. Another example: I got a new phone recently, but since all my stuff was still on my old phone, a…
Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
#293I don't like it. Having a physical object the embodies your phone's identity is a lot easier to deal with in many ways than an ethereal emulation of said object. For instance, if I'm traveling I can just buy a SIM card at a kiosk and pop it in, even if I can only communicate through little more than pointing and grunting. Another example: I got a new phone recently, but since all my stuff was still on my old phone, a…
For a lot of less technically inclined folks I think eSIMs would introduce a lot of complexity. Swapping a SIM card is rather straight forward, and I know that for example my mother could easily do it by herself and has done so in the past. I don't think she would be able to swap an eSIM using the customer portal of her operator if it was necessary. I could see this causing a lot of headache for customer support or n…
Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
#294I am very worried about this. While I love (and sometimes use) eSIMs, the physical SIM has a huge advantage in that it gives me freedom. It's the revolution that GSM brought: just take your SIM and move it to a different phone. No permission required. Arguably we've become slaves to ecosystems of either Apple or Google at this point, as pretty much nobody uses a phone as "just a phone", you need to have an account wi…
I share your concerns but at the same time I think, why would we even need a SIM? Isn't it simply a device for accessing account on someones system? We don't have SIMs for ADSL or Fiber internet? We don't have SIMs for Reddit ot Twitter? Why would we have SIMs accessing GSM networks? There's no fundamental reason why we simply don't sign in into these networks like signing in to HN. Surely, it adds a layer of anonymi…
In the Before Times: handy for travel. Having a (e)SIM for your personal number (but perhaps disable data), and when you arrive at your destination just pop in a new physical SIM for local data (and calling).
> We don't have SIMs for ADSL or Fiber internet?
I wish we did. At least for ADSL you can use PPPoE to login into a network with whatever hardware you wish to use instead of the telco's often janky, underpowered stuff. With fibre (GPON) they often lock in the MAC of the optic, so good luck using something else besides whatever is provided. If you're lucky you can remove the SFP module and put it into whatever you want.
This may not be useful for 99% of the population, but given this is HN we're on, I think a lot of folks can appreciate being 'hardware agnostic'.
Otherwise we're back to the 1960s when only Officially Approved™ equipment can be connected:
Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
#295I don't like it. Having a physical object the embodies your phone's identity is a lot easier to deal with in many ways than an ethereal emulation of said object. For instance, if I'm traveling I can just buy a SIM card at a kiosk and pop it in, even if I can only communicate through little more than pointing and grunting. Another example: I got a new phone recently, but since all my stuff was still on my old phone, a…
Edit: you can still enroll in a different carrier when traveling with an ESIM because they’re often dual ESIM modules and the way to do it through GUI is trivial.
Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
#296No headphone jack. No SD slot. Soon no charging port (wireless). Now no sim car. How soon before there are no plugs whatsoever? Once everything is wireless then apple, through software, can finally take absolute control over how and what is connected to their phones. Want to communicate with or even charge an iPhone? You better be running approved and licensed software. Then the phone can be physically locked like a…
2023. Apple's been telegraphing the move to portless non-"pro" devices for years now.
> Want to communicate with or even charge an iPhone? You better be running approved and licensed software.
In fact, charging options will finally be standard across their product line — Qi for non-pro devices, USB-C for pro devices. Communication will happen via Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, and UWB.
Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> For instance, if I'm traveling I can just buy a SIM card at a kiosk and pop it in That is exactly what apple doesn't want you to do. They don't want users making deals with local ISPs for service. They want in on that transaction. Virtual SIMs, controlled by phone manufacturers, will allow them to exercise a degree of control over wandering users. If you are a local ISP, you better be part of the program if you wa…
> They don't want users making deals with local ISPs for service. They want in on that transaction. Virtual SIMs, controlled by phone manufacturers, will allow them to exercise a degree of control over wandering users. SIMs come from the phone company. How could it be otherwise as that's where the phone number comes from, and that's how the local physical network determines whether you're allowed to connect or not: *…
> A virtual SIM is a mobile phone number provided by a mobile network operator that does not require a SIM card to connect phone calls to a user's mobile phone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card#Other_variants
This isn't about Apple becoming an MVNO, this is about Apple somehow controlling the process of configuring your phone because you no longer have the option to choose a SIM card and insert it yourself.
Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
#298I am very worried about this. While I love (and sometimes use) eSIMs, the physical SIM has a huge advantage in that it gives me freedom. It's the revolution that GSM brought: just take your SIM and move it to a different phone. No permission required. Arguably we've become slaves to ecosystems of either Apple or Google at this point, as pretty much nobody uses a phone as "just a phone", you need to have an account wi…
I share your concerns but at the same time I think, why would we even need a SIM? Isn't it simply a device for accessing account on someones system? We don't have SIMs for ADSL or Fiber internet? We don't have SIMs for Reddit ot Twitter? Why would we have SIMs accessing GSM networks? There's no fundamental reason why we simply don't sign in into these networks like signing in to HN. Surely, it adds a layer of anonymi…
Fiber is actually quite complex. Most residential fiber going in today is GPON, and those systems are authenticated by the ONT, which is somewhat analogous to a hardwired SIM. Theoretically, you could reverse engineer the ONT and create your own, but you can expect to get your account closed if they catch you.
Then you have companies like AT&T who also force you to use their godawful routers and actively work to close off methods that allow using your own router.
And if you have metro-E, chances are the ISP provides their own media converter. Doesn't matter that they charge a $12k install fee and $1200/mo (for 500/500 - actual Comcast bill in Nashville, TN), they still won't hand you an SFP+ module.
Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> For instance, if I'm traveling I can just buy a SIM card at a kiosk and pop it in That is exactly what apple doesn't want you to do. They don't want users making deals with local ISPs for service. They want in on that transaction. Virtual SIMs, controlled by phone manufacturers, will allow them to exercise a degree of control over wandering users. If you are a local ISP, you better be part of the program if you wa…
> They don't want users making deals with local ISPs for service. They want in on that transaction. Virtual SIMs, controlled by phone manufacturers, will allow them to exercise a degree of control over wandering users. SIMs come from the phone company. How could it be otherwise as that's where the phone number comes from, and that's how the local physical network determines whether you're allowed to connect or not: *…
That's definitely going to be a step up in user comfort... The average apple user will definitely love it
Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022
#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They don't want users making deals with local ISPs for service. They want in on that transaction. Virtual SIMs, controlled by phone manufacturers, will allow them to exercise a degree of control over wandering users. SIMs come from the phone company. How could it be otherwise as that's where the phone number comes from, and that's how the local physical network determines whether you're allowed to connect or not: *…
From your own link: > A virtual SIM is a mobile phone number provided by a mobile network operator that does not require a SIM card to connect phone calls to a user's mobile phone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card#Other_variants This isn't about Apple becoming an MVNO, this is about Apple somehow controlling the process of configuring your phone because you no longer have the option to choose a SIM card and ins…
https://www.t-mobile.com/support/tutorials/topic/esim/activa...