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Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022

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Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022

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I don't like it. Having a physical object the embodies your phone's identity is a lot easier to deal with in many ways than an ethereal emulation of said object. For instance, if I'm traveling I can just buy a SIM card at a kiosk and pop it in, even if I can only communicate through little more than pointing and grunting. Another example: I got a new phone recently, but since all my stuff was still on my old phone, a…

I imagine a world where you just a bring a phone anywhere and it you open your network settings, go to your cellular data menu, and then automatically it detects the mobile network providers that support the towers it can see. Then you tap on the one you want, select the package you want, pay for it from that menu and then bam you are connected. All without having an existing Wi-Fi or Cellular data plan. There needs…

Does sounds like your giving away a lot privacy. But it does sound really convient especially if you like to travel.

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People are saying this is bad because you won't be able to swap phones without relying on the carrier to provision a new eSIM for you. I have the same gut reaction, but with my current physical SIM, I have to install the carrier's app, and there are many phones which don't work with my carrier, despite being unlocked phones and unlocked SIMs. And let's not forget that locking phones and SIMs has been common practice…

that's because of carrier companies practices in US. I don't have deal with that bullshit in my country (India)

Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022

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I (before COVID…) travel somewhat regularly and have a collection of SIM cards from my most frequently travelled destinations making just arriving and going about my life a nice straightforward process. I haven’t seen anything to indicate eSIMs have anything close to this experience and I feel like losing the option to do so for some perceived modernness is a bit disappointing.

I'm not sure about all your use cases, but I had great success with Airalo when traveling. It was data only, but my normal Verizon number was routed through that data connection. The biggest negative was not really being able to make local calls. There's a few other companies that do the same thing (GigSky and a few others that I can't remember). It was my first time traveling internationally that I felt like it was…

The problem with those roaming SIM packages is that they're usually dramatically more expensive than just buying a local SIM. It's fine if you only travel sporadically, but if you travel often it really adds up.

Example: I have a SIM from Free (French carrier) that gives me 150GB data in France and 25GB of roaming data throughout the EU and a few other countries for €20/month. It would cost more than double that to match the allotment with the travel carriers you find on e.g. Airalo.

Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022

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Realistically when was the last time you switched your SIM card? I only change it when i change phones.

I've changed SIM cards twice in the past week. I travel all the time.

airalo is literally made for you.

Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022

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Why do people love Smartphones, but hate Smart TVs?

Because when you buy a display you want it to display what you want without sharing that info with the world. Would you be happy with a smart monitor that took screen shots of what you were working on sending them back to who knows where for a cheaper price?

Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022

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Vodafone UK still associates your contract with a phone number. That is, if you wanted to keep the contract and re-associate your phone number with a new contract that is not possible without paying for the remaining months on the contract.

Potentially, but my point is that it's a commercial decision or incompetence (maybe the number is used as the primary key for the contract record?) - technically there is no reason for this.

It’s incompetence driven by the market conditions: nobody on the market can do that and therefore no one is motivated to do that. I can understand that maybe not many customers ever need this too. AFAIK the engineer on the other side of the call said nobody provides such a service in the UK.

Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022

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The current and last several iphones have been dual sim, one physical and one eSim. I'm wondering if they keep an eSIM-only model as having two eSIMs. The dual sim implementation is very weird, like its clear they only imagine that someone is popping in a different SIM for travel, as opposed to just having two numbers they use all the time like I do. Even most of the support is catered to travellers with a temporary…

iPhone 13 supports dual eSIMs.

Thats interesting.

I looked it up now:

Two active plans with dual eSIM

Or

Two active plans with a physical SIM and an eSIM

Weird that it cant just do 3 active plans

Is it a radio limitation?

Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022

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I've changed SIM cards twice in the past week. I travel all the time.

airalo is literally made for you.

That's really helpful. I hadn't heard of Airalo. Thanks for the recommendation!

Re: Apple said to be preparing for iPhones without SIM card slot in 2022

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airalo is literally made for you.

That's really helpful. I hadn't heard of Airalo. Thanks for the recommendation!

I just heard about it a month ago. Ping me if you want a referral so both me and you get $3 or so.
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