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Whataboutism has nothing to do with morality. If country A does something bad it doesn't mean that it is not actually bad because country B did something similar. Do you find it interesting that anytime there is a thread about the US doing something bad that nobody jumps in and say well China did the same thing? It only goes one way. That is why I am calling it out. The reason why it goes one way is because people wh…
People also don't generally comment on the amount of pro-US or pro-Europe comments in those threads. I don't think I've ever seen any accusations of Western astroturfing. Influencing the media, sure, but not being directly in the comments. Also, the US is trying to maintain a moral high ground (real or perceived). They don't want to be associated with China. I don't think anyone would say "well China does it too!" bu…
People don't tend to bring up the west in a good way in the thread unless other posters first bring up that the west does / has done the same thing. I think saying the west is better after somebody says the west is equal to China is just countering the argument.
>Also, the US is trying to maintain a moral high ground (real or perceived). They don't want to be associated with China. I don't think anyone would say "well China does it too!"
I agree.
>but they would absolutely say "well the EU does it too!".
This does happen sometimes, but not as frequently as it appears to happen in China posts. When it does happen, there are usually comments saying how much better the EU is for privacy or whatever the topic is and so it tends to be a retort of those comments.
>I do think China gets dinged for their misdeeds more than other nations do.
I would say that it is likely true China gets dinged more, but it is important to note that there are a lot of pro CCP people than many other countries. I don't see many people saying Afghanistan is a great country so there is less reason to call out the bad happening there.
China is also growing and is one of the biggest rivals to the west. If the west falters China could become the sole super power. There is more of a need to attempt to stop it than other countries. If China was just some random country, few people would care about their abuses because it wouldn't impact them.
>I don't see nearly the anti-India sentiment, despite the similarities. India is perceived as a country that makes some missteps on their way to modernization, while China is perceived as a country that's rotten to the core and making intentionally terrible choices.
> India still has castes, and didn't they just have a series of internet blackouts to suppress dissidents? The whole thing with the farmers, though I could be misremembering. They're democratic though, so we're all pretty sure they'll find their way.
India does have issues, but the issues do not appear to be as bad as China. China suppresses the internet for everybody, not just some people for example.
India is also more friendly to the west, so if they were to become a super power they would be less threatening to the west.
If China was more friendly to the west instead of threatening the west and attacking half the countries they share a border with they wouldn't have as much criticism. If you are going to be a bad country, keep it to yourself and most people won't bother you. North Korea is a good example. They are mostly ignored until they do or say something stupid then they are criticized.
>No one seems to consider that perhaps China will find their way as well. Germany had Hitler 80 years ago and they're doing fine today. Perhaps in 80 years China will be more free as well.
I think the problem is you need to criticize the country that is doing something bad. Should nobody have criticized Germany during Hitler's reign since maybe in 80 years they will be more free? It was bad when there were Nazi propagandists outside of Germany just like it is bad there are CCP propagandists now.