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Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by majormajor » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 8:34 PM UTC

tomxor wrote: post #109

alufers wrote: post #100

Can we just stop the shitshow with DRM? I have NEVER encountered a TV show/movie that I could't rip using a torrent either on public p2p sites or a private tracker. But I have seen a lot of my non-technical friends and family having a degraded experience, who pay for their streaming services every month. It was either because they were using a browser or device which was deemed unworthy of full quality streaming by t…

Yeah, I don't know in what world DRM is supposed to stop people ripping stuff, it only seems to hurt paying users, ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this so why bother . The irony is that as a Linux user (only SD for us), and a user with poor internet and thus shitty streaming speed, DRM pushes me towards torrenting everything I "buy" from the…

How do you carry it around?

The torrenting experience IMO is still fairly limited compared to either the BluRay experience for "max quality" viewing at home (but with easy portability of the disc too) or the "play it anywhere you're logged in without being tied to a particular device or hard drive" experience of streaming. When it comes to movies, you can often get both of those with a single purchase, too!

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by Scoundreller » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 8:35 PM UTC

eadmund wrote: post #205

tomxor wrote: post #109

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Yeah, I don't know in what world DRM is supposed to stop people ripping stuff, it only seems to hurt paying users, ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this so why bother . The irony is that as a Linux user (only SD for us), and a user with poor internet and thus shitty streaming speed, DRM pushes me towards torrenting everything I "buy" from the…

> ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this I think that the end goal for the media companies is to add watermarking to all media and require watermark detection on all video-recording equipment, to include cameras. This would be terribly bad, but I think it is technically possible.

Sell them some easily defeatable “solution”. Use lots of buzz words. They’ll buy it!

They’ve been buying dreams long enough, may as well be the one that sells it to them.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by cdubzzz » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 8:38 PM UTC

LinuxBender wrote: post #194

ramraj07 wrote: post #90

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Who the hell skips car chases? What movie had a car chase that you wanted to skip that made that movie more watchable (this sentence applies to the furious films as well, skipping the chase scenes there gives you the dumbest drama of all time).

I skip most of them. This is just my own personal preference but unless someone comes up with a new angle on this they are just boring and repetitive for me personally. The same goes for most fight scenes. I spent many decades watching martial arts films and now find most of the fight scenes to be repetitive. The only recent exceptions to this I can think of are the Bourne series, Kate and the first John Wick film. P…

Check out Atomic Blonde as well (for good fight scenes). There is a certain style of exhaustion about the fights in that film that I really love. I don't skip fight scenes regularly but I do also find most of them boring as hell and hard to watch (primarily because of excessive cutting).

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by lillecarl » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 8:42 PM UTC

alufers wrote: post #209

lillecarl wrote: post #179

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You're mixing terms up, you don't rip using a torrent or any other p2p protocol. You download things. You know how Netflix only allows you to stream 1080p in most browsers? That's because they don't support the DRMs content providers use for high-res content. You'll see webrips all the time with 1080p because someone can just record their screen and call it a day, but the 4k content is harder since the DRM prevents e…

Oh sorry, English is not my native language and I had to rephrase a few times, totally missed that. >You'll see webrips all the time with 1080p because someone can just record their screen and call it a day. I've checked my tracker and practically all TV shows from Netflix that are in 4K can be downloaded in 4K. And I am 99% sure they are not screen caps, for example the entire second season of The Witcher was releas…

All good on the English mate, just had to make sure.

Netflix DRM might indeed be broken(I don't know), but I do get the purpose of it. Now only nerds in nerd communities can do illegal stuff in HQ then.

Plex is great indeed, I might sub to a seedbox with shared account and set it up again some day, though I like the thought of using Jellyfin since it's open source.

D+ supports group watch.

I mean, if something is available on a streaming service the experience is good, but torrenting doesn't have to be as bad as it is for me (I don't run servers at home, and I don't want "server software" on my desktop either really).

I just think we shouldn't complain that those who distribute content wants to protect it, even if the protection is subpar.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by Retric » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 8:46 PM UTC

majormajor wrote: post #211

tomxor wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I don't know in what world DRM is supposed to stop people ripping stuff, it only seems to hurt paying users, ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this so why bother . The irony is that as a Linux user (only SD for us), and a user with poor internet and thus shitty streaming speed, DRM pushes me towards torrenting everything I "buy" from the…

How do you carry it around? The torrenting experience IMO is still fairly limited compared to either the BluRay experience for "max quality" viewing at home (but with easy portability of the disc too) or the "play it anywhere you're logged in without being tied to a particular device or hard drive" experience of streaming. When it comes to movies, you can often get both of those with a single purchase, too!

BlueRay sucks for portability their quiet fragile needing a case of some sort, you p need a player, and you quickly get to the point of having multiple CD cases worth of disks. Compared to the disks USB drives win, if your talking a player you might as well just take a tablet or laptop with multiple movies, and external drives hold as many movies as those CD cases while being far more convenient.

As far as I am concerned BlueRay loses on all fronts.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by firethief » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 8:48 PM UTC

nsxwolf wrote: post #192

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #170

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> torrenting today is as good as the experience of buying music on a physical medium in the 90s You meant to say "it's much better than buying experience has ever been". You throw an RSS feed into your torrent client once and get desktop or email notifications when a new episode is downloaded and ready to play. If there's enough disk space, you can add whole categories in there and have hundreds of shows available lo…

This is not a good experience. I cannot order a box like an Apple TV and just hook it up to my new TV and go. It’s never as easy as anyone says it is, there’s always more steps involved than logging into iTunes and/or subscribing to some service with my credit card. Plus there’s always the chance of a lawsuit hanging over my head.

I have an Android TV and streaming subscriptions. If I want to stream something I have to find out what service carries it, open the right app, and attempt to type the title with the arrow keys on the remote. For me, it's much easier to torrent.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by MattPalmer1086 » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 8:53 PM UTC

m-p-3 wrote: post #160

jackson1442 wrote: post #147

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Use MakeMKV to pull an MKV off the disc, then use Handbrake to compress it to a reasonable size. Relatively easy, just takes a bit.

You can skip the MakeMKV part and directly encode through Handbrake if you add the required libraries (libaacs, libbdplus) in your Handbrake install directory and grab decryption key database (which I won't link here). You can do the same with commercial DVDs and the libdvdcss library. Then it's just a matter of opening the disc directly in Handbrake.

I've found MakeMKV to be much more reliable than Handbrake for ripping.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by Macha » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 8:58 PM UTC

lillecarl wrote: post #214

alufers wrote: post #209

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Oh sorry, English is not my native language and I had to rephrase a few times, totally missed that. >You'll see webrips all the time with 1080p because someone can just record their screen and call it a day. I've checked my tracker and practically all TV shows from Netflix that are in 4K can be downloaded in 4K. And I am 99% sure they are not screen caps, for example the entire second season of The Witcher was releas…

All good on the English mate, just had to make sure. Netflix DRM might indeed be broken(I don't know), but I do get the purpose of it. Now only nerds in nerd communities can do illegal stuff in HQ then. Plex is great indeed, I might sub to a seedbox with shared account and set it up again some day, though I like the thought of using Jellyfin since it's open source. D+ supports group watch. I mean, if something is ava…

> D+ supports group watch.

Even when the paid service supports it, they can add complications, for example. Amazon Prime group watch doesn't work between my Irish subscription and my friend's UK subscription even when the media is available in both regions.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by genewitch » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 9:00 PM UTC

marcodiego wrote: post #171

monocasa wrote: post #165

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Yep, like the unskippable ads on legitimate DVDs, where you couldn't be certified if you made a DVD player that let you skip those video files like all the others on the disc, and you couldn't legally make an uncertified player because of the DRM.

Exactly. Like consuming content from another region, having a personal backup copy of content we legally bought, like re-selling content we legally own, like recording and replaying transmission from "terrestrial"/"over the air" TV, like making our own devices capable of playing that content... These are all rights that (AFAIK, IANAL) we legally have but can't exercise because media producers took the control over di…

>We have nothing equivalent to a VHS recorder where can simply press a button, recording whatever is on TV to a removable media and play it anywhere else! We can't even buy a non-smart (actually calling it smart is dumb) TV for a reasonable price anymore!

to the first part, some of the "antenna to HDMI" boxes let you plug in an SSD, and will let you have a "recording loop" like a DVR, and also let you DVR scheduled shows. If you then take that drive and plug it in to a computer, it will have files that open with VLC/mpv/mplayer/whatever.

And to the second part, I used a large monitor as a TV for a long while, and my primary screen is a projector, both of which are just dumb "bits to nits" devices. The downside is having to have external speakers.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by lillecarl » Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 9:02 PM UTC

Macha wrote: post #218

lillecarl wrote: post #214

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All good on the English mate, just had to make sure. Netflix DRM might indeed be broken(I don't know), but I do get the purpose of it. Now only nerds in nerd communities can do illegal stuff in HQ then. Plex is great indeed, I might sub to a seedbox with shared account and set it up again some day, though I like the thought of using Jellyfin since it's open source. D+ supports group watch. I mean, if something is ava…

> D+ supports group watch. Even when the paid service supports it, they can add complications, for example. Amazon Prime group watch doesn't work between my Irish subscription and my friend's UK subscription even when the media is available in both regions.

Does group watch work across plex servers?

I can see why they don't cover this edge case if I'm to be entirely honest.