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"Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by floatingatoll »

hatware wrote: post #146
dijit wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like I have to defend the parent here. My experience in the nulling/warez/pirating community is that it tends to be young adults doing the majority of the work and mostly they do it for kudos and not monetary benefit. Adults might be giving them the kudos, but the hard work (again, in my experience) is young adults, of school age.

Young adults aren't breaking into streaming devices to extract the CDM keys. They also aren't running trackers like Orpheus and Redacted. Those are small examples, but I'm not sure I understand how young adults would ever have the mobility and network to do these things.

Er, you may not have been a young adult with l33t hardware hacking skills, but others were.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by jrm4 »

alias_neo wrote: post #76
jrm4 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Making an imaginary-ish copy that stays on the big Microsoft-owned system is mostly unnecessary and probably not enough to keep it around, make sure you save a copy on your own computer that they can't get to." Don't want to be (too) condescending, but, as an old-timer it's kind of wild to me that people who work with tech a lot do actually sometimes need to be reminded of this.

It continues to amaze me that so many people in my profession (software) don't know that Git is "decentralized". GitHub et al have taken over so ubiquitously that many developers I know have no idea that a bunch of what they do isn't even Git, and a bunch of what they don't do, is.

Wonder if they pay any attention to who wrote it as well. :)

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by mook »

wnevets wrote: post #156
CorrectHorseBat wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate? What are they gaining from that?

I'm assuming the commenter you replied to is talking about the fact legitimate distributors usually follow the law. They're going to pay the large sums of money instead of breaking the DRM.

But they would be paying the same money without the DRM too; they're paying to be legitimate, regardless of whether the DRM is there.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by rishimaharaj »

specialist wrote: post #81
searine wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI There is a great chrome extension that allows you to control playback speed, and it works on just about every video site.

I'm interested. Link? I'll mosdef try it. For whatever I reason, I have to use Firefox to watch Disney+. (Mac Safari will always eventually ABEND. Shouldn't Apple regression test Safari on the Top X most popular sites?!) As for spotty rewind, like with Netflix, another comment might have the explanation (root cause); streams are broken into individually encrypted chunks. So of course there's lag (latency) when jumpin…

This is the one that I use to control video speed pretty much anywhere (works on any Chromium based browsers): [Video Speed Controller](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-speed-contro...)

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by monocasa »

marcodiego wrote: post #157
CorrectHorseBat wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate? What are they gaining from that?

Giant media conglomerate says to Big distributor: - Hi distributor! Do you want to distribute our content? You just have to make sure players will have this list of anti-features. Big distributor says to manufacturer: - Hi manufacturer! Do you want to play the content we distrubute? You just have to make sure your TV's will have this list of anti-features. And here we are.

Yep, like the unskippable ads on legitimate DVDs, where you couldn't be certified if you made a DVD player that let you skip those video files like all the others on the disc, and you couldn't legally make an uncertified player because of the DRM.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by derekp7 »

tomxor wrote: post #109
alufers wrote: post #100

Can we just stop the shitshow with DRM? I have NEVER encountered a TV show/movie that I could't rip using a torrent either on public p2p sites or a private tracker. But I have seen a lot of my non-technical friends and family having a degraded experience, who pay for their streaming services every month. It was either because they were using a browser or device which was deemed unworthy of full quality streaming by t…

Yeah, I don't know in what world DRM is supposed to stop people ripping stuff, it only seems to hurt paying users, ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this so why bother . The irony is that as a Linux user (only SD for us), and a user with poor internet and thus shitty streaming speed, DRM pushes me towards torrenting everything I "buy" from the…

The "paying users" is exactly the group that DRM is designed to hurt (control). There is a large class of users that won't mess with torrents or whatever for a number of reasons. Ones that apply to me are 1) I don't want my internet service cut if the ISP gets a complaint, 2) Yes, I know I can use a VPN service to get around (1), but then I'd have to find a trusted VPN and there have been ones in the past that were outed as honey pots. 3) You have to be part of the "scene" to work around (1) and (2). 4) I have some disposable income, so at this point in my life I don't feel a "sting" by paying 5 - 7 bucks a month for a streaming service. I'm sure that for other people, lack of familiarity with how to get content through unauthorized means.

Now for the control that they want over users like me. If I could easily do it, I'd subscribe to one service, grab a bunch of content to watch later, then unsubscribe a month later and go to the next service in line. Also they want to control how I use the media, such as watching offline (by using the "download to watch later" button they provide, they can ensure that I don't download it to all my friends' devices, and that I still am a paying customer at the time I decide to watch later).

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by fishtacos »

pm215 wrote: post #140
dijit wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> aka the "Blu-Ray experience" Have you actually used blu-ray or are you thinking about DVDs (and Blu-rays are a natural evolution in your mind?) Because, honestly, Blu-rays are atrocious. Every so often I actually buy a BluRay, not only to support the work but also because in the case of losing internet (but not power) I'd like to watch a small selection of carefully curated movies. I was in such a position 2 years…

Thanks for the heads-up about ps4 bluray playing. Apparently (assuming reddit posts to be correct) the internet requirement is a one-time thing where it downloads codecs, and Sony is supposedly doing it this way so they only pay the codec licensing fee for ps4s whose owners ever actually play a bluray rather than for ever ps4 ever shipped. So I'll make sure to do a test bluray play and then fingers crossed if I want…

Memory isn't quite what it used to be, but if I recall, this was also the case with the Sony PSP, Vita, PS3 and XBOX 360. They all required a separate activation step for playback of specific licensed codecs (I believe it was both MPEG2 and h264, varying with system).

Unfortunate that a pretty basic piece of functionality is forever lost once the activation servers are taken down.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by monocasa »

dijit wrote: post #136
hatware wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you implying that young adults are more responsible for the state of piracy today than adults? I don't see that at all.

I feel like I have to defend the parent here. My experience in the nulling/warez/pirating community is that it tends to be young adults doing the majority of the work and mostly they do it for kudos and not monetary benefit. Adults might be giving them the kudos, but the hard work (again, in my experience) is young adults, of school age.

A lot of them started as young adults, but the scene has been going on for over 20 years. Some people quit over time, and some other joined as they got old enough to contribute, but I wouldn't paint with as wide of a brush as you're doing.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by darkwater »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #132
antihero wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's such a chain - even if a distributer didn't want to use DRM, the buck will stop with a lawyer for the content owners who's job it is to do everything in their power to make sure their clients get paid for the content. Why would one of those make it easier to pirate? Corporate drone logic man.

Because they can sell more views if paying customers are happy. I refuse to pay for Netflix because even if paid I wouldn't be able to watch the content (including Netflix originals where the "rightsholders don't allow it" argument doesn't make much sense) in reasonable quality. Meanwhile, people can watch it from an unlicensed source without paying (legality varies by country but generally low risk for users), and a…

I'm all against DRMs but the friction nowadays is, if you stick to one platform, almost zero, way less than your average pirated experience. Now, if we talk about platforms balkanization and how you have to shell out 50€-$/month if you want to enjoy just the best content from major platforms, that's another topic.

Re: "Widevine Dump":Leaked Code Downloads HD Video from Disney+, Amazon, and Netflix

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b »

tomxor wrote: post #109
alufers wrote: post #100

Can we just stop the shitshow with DRM? I have NEVER encountered a TV show/movie that I could't rip using a torrent either on public p2p sites or a private tracker. But I have seen a lot of my non-technical friends and family having a degraded experience, who pay for their streaming services every month. It was either because they were using a browser or device which was deemed unworthy of full quality streaming by t…

Yeah, I don't know in what world DRM is supposed to stop people ripping stuff, it only seems to hurt paying users, ultimately if it comes out of a screen you can always capture the output, no amount of DRM will ever prevent this so why bother . The irony is that as a Linux user (only SD for us), and a user with poor internet and thus shitty streaming speed, DRM pushes me towards torrenting everything I "buy" from the…

> torrenting today is as good as the experience of buying music on a physical medium in the 90s

You meant to say "it's much better than buying experience has ever been". You throw an RSS feed into your torrent client once and get desktop or email notifications when a new episode is downloaded and ready to play. If there's enough disk space, you can add whole categories in there and have hundreds of shows available locally at any time.

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