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Re: Startups should not use GoDaddy. Ever

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> Why is this news?! I can't count the number of times this has come up And yet GoDaddy is still in business and doing great.

You can't get past the cheapness of some people. $5 a month for hosting is very attractive to someone looking to bootstrap off of savings.

You can get much better supported, more feature-full (and also more "unlimited" and oversold) hosting for $5 or less from people less scummy and likely to shut off your box or domain than GoDaddy.

Seriously, is DNS so hard that typing in the nameservers of your shared hosting provider or DECENT VPS provider is so unthinkable? Or is it registering for a second account? I simply do, not, understand.

Re: Startups should not use GoDaddy. Ever

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Here's the list that i post every time someone asks this. There are plenty of other ones, but these are the "tried and true" top list. * Gandi.net * Namecheap * Name.com (Some very sleazy practices, see child) * Moniker

Name.com is pretty evil too. They opt you in to a "service" that displays ads from your domain (where they keep the revenue, of course), and say that you are responsible for ensuring that the content is legal See http://nathanhammond.com/namedotcom-another-unscrupulous-reg...

I just bought a domain from Name.com yesterday (in an effort to escape from GoDaddy) and I'm surprised at how nasty their interface is. These big registrars really try to make their users suffer.

Re: Startups should not use GoDaddy. Ever

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I've seen a lot of issues raised about godaddy recently, but any suggestions for domain registry that work better?

Here's the list that i post every time someone asks this. There are plenty of other ones, but these are the "tried and true" top list. * Gandi.net * Namecheap * Name.com (Some very sleazy practices, see child) * Moniker

One more vote from me to Moniker — their control panel might be a little bit more awkward and buggy than it should be, but the services are stable and non-disturbing.

And in general, it is usual a good idea to have separate service providers for domain name registering and for hosting.

Re: Startups should not use GoDaddy. Ever

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How long have you been using it?

Not the person you asked but I've used namecheap for 3 years now and haven't had any issues, the whoisgaurd they offer is cheap when it comes up for renewal and you don't have to have a card or anything on file for when renewals come up, they do email you a bit when they do but I don't mind that. The interface isn't going to win any awards and most of my domains use linodes dns so I can't say how well their dns stack…

>The interface isn't going to win any awards and most of my domains use linodes dns so I can't say how well their dns stacks up.

Their DNS has been fantastic for me. Very straightforward interface, and even has a few nice touches like being able to automatically set up mx records for you if you use Google Apps on that domain.

Re: Startups should not use GoDaddy. Ever

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I've seen a lot of issues raised about godaddy recently, but any suggestions for domain registry that work better?

Here's the list that i post every time someone asks this. There are plenty of other ones, but these are the "tried and true" top list. * Gandi.net * Namecheap * Name.com (Some very sleazy practices, see child) * Moniker

I'm almost extremely happy with Dreamhost as a registrar. (I got a year of hosting from them for $10 during one of their quite-common sales, and then let the hosting go but got to keep them as a registrar.)

Their interface is a little clunky but reasonably nice, and they make some stuff, like setting up Google Apps, super-easy.

Unfortunately, their password recovery scheme is to email me my password in plaintext, and I'm really not comfortable having my main domain that controls my email and online presence protected by bad security, so I'm moving off of them very soon, at least for danieljackoway.com

Re: Startups should not use GoDaddy. Ever

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One of the reasons godaddy is successful is that they are the registrar of referral for people (web designers, programmers, ISP's) that have customers that need domain registration or renewal. When an end user has a domain they need or one up for renewal godaddy is the registrar that is suggested to them by their "tech guy".

This is similar to how Microsoft gained power in a way. They were supported by a huge network of people that made money off of Microsoft. Additionally traditional tech guys want to appear smart and love (even if they don't make any commission) telling people they can get their domain registered cheaply at godaddy. "Wow I'm overpaying" says the customer.

What many people don't realize is that all registrars pay exactly the same price for a domain. Any registrar charging less than a certain amount (say below or near cost) is making it up elsewhere. In the case of godaddy it is by selling you things that you don't need that have no value.

One and only one example of this is "privacy protection". This is like a FUD from Microsoft.

Many godaddy domains have privacy protection that have no need for privacy and in fact privacy, because they are an operating business, with a business address, is the opposite of what they should be using. While having privacy is of benefit in some cases (to criticize your employer as only one example) it is almost always safer to have a real address in the whois records if you can do that.

This of course isn't limited to godaddy. Register.com is the registrar for Fred Wilson's avc.com. Avc.com has privacy protection even though Fred has a business address that he could use and has a public email address.

Domain Name: avc.com Created on..............: 2008-07-18 Expires on..............: 2019-04-30

Registrant: Domain Discreet ATTN: avc.com Rua Dr. Brito Camara, n 20, 1 Funchal, Madeira 9000-039 PT

Re: Startups should not use GoDaddy. Ever

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I moved away from GoDaddy a couple of years ago. Now I have a few expiring domains left on there. Last week I got a notice they were going to charge me for a renewal, which I did not want. So I called the support guy. Twenty or so minutes later, he sent me to a link to fill out a form where all would be taken care of. Except it wasn't. Just like my previous few encounters with GoDaddy, when I went to the link I learn…

Counter anecdote: I've quite a few domains on GoDaddy. I've transfered a few over the years, both to and from GoDaddy, and while the steps where not explained clearly I never had an issue where I was prevented from controlling my domains. I also used their DNS service for the first time last month and found it pretty straightforward. Maybe I wasn't trying to do something that would have been complex (I didn't set up…

I share both your criticism and praise, but would add that GoDaddy allowed me to do bulk contact editing which (along with pricing) was the reason I switched to them c. 3 years ago.

Margins may be low, but the domain registrar market seems ripe for disruption. Are there any interesting upstarts in this space?

Re: Startups should not use GoDaddy. Ever

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I moved away from GoDaddy a couple of years ago. Now I have a few expiring domains left on there. Last week I got a notice they were going to charge me for a renewal, which I did not want. So I called the support guy. Twenty or so minutes later, he sent me to a link to fill out a form where all would be taken care of. Except it wasn't. Just like my previous few encounters with GoDaddy, when I went to the link I learn…

Counter anecdote: I've quite a few domains on GoDaddy. I've transfered a few over the years, both to and from GoDaddy, and while the steps where not explained clearly I never had an issue where I was prevented from controlling my domains. I also used their DNS service for the first time last month and found it pretty straightforward. Maybe I wasn't trying to do something that would have been complex (I didn't set up…

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