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Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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Interesting that they did this before launching their own NFT platform (Quartz)

Why is this interesting?

Because if those items are suddenly would be available as NFTs, they're worth a lot more.

Now it's just tough luck for the people... Old agreement about destroying someone's digital assets. People who want their items "back" are forced to play/pay again..

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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I feel a bit disappointed by the number of people suggesting that an NFT would somehow help here. An NFT is just a fancy signed receipt. I can mint an NFT saying the OP owns a bunch of Ubisoft games and give it to him, but his account will still be closed. Ubisoft could mint an NFT saying he owns a bunch of games and give it to him, but his account will still be closed . (He probably still has the receipts from when…

But if he creates a new account and transfers the NFTs (that function as your proof of ownership of a game in this case), then you're good to go again. Since they can't be deleted. It's a different story if your NFTs are banned of course, then it wouldn't matter if you transfer them to a new account.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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post #290

I feel a bit disappointed by the number of people suggesting that an NFT would somehow help here. An NFT is just a fancy signed receipt. I can mint an NFT saying the OP owns a bunch of Ubisoft games and give it to him, but his account will still be closed. Ubisoft could mint an NFT saying he owns a bunch of games and give it to him, but his account will still be closed . (He probably still has the receipts from when…

>no technological problem //

What about proving ownership, on the balance of probabilities, to show tortuous damages in a court? Seems like a list of receipts that's somehow certified would be beneficial to that end?

Probably first we need legislation to make digital purchases resalable, and to require DRM free versions to be made available if a product is EOL-ed.

Companies world copyright against the populous who are [in a functioning democracy] the ones who give them the copyright in the first place.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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Downloading the files to your hard-drive solves this, which we've been able to do since always, and yet here we are. It's not a tech problem.

Does it? Because I was just thinking that it's not an issue with digital goods only, they can do the same thing if you have a physical disk and need to activate the right to it using a key, they can just disable the key and that's it, about the guy about talking about NFTs and problem, this is not a problem that happened and needs to be solved, this is a problem for users that has been implemented, I'm sure they woul…

Yeah, honestly this makes me think that the warez scene may be increasingly important in the future.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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post #290

I feel a bit disappointed by the number of people suggesting that an NFT would somehow help here. An NFT is just a fancy signed receipt. I can mint an NFT saying the OP owns a bunch of Ubisoft games and give it to him, but his account will still be closed. Ubisoft could mint an NFT saying he owns a bunch of games and give it to him, but his account will still be closed . (He probably still has the receipts from when…

>no technological problem // What about proving ownership, on the balance of probabilities, to show tortuous damages in a court? Seems like a list of receipts that's somehow certified would be beneficial to that end? Probably first we need legislation to make digital purchases resalable, and to require DRM free versions to be made available if a product is EOL-ed. Companies world copyright against the populous who ar…

NFT's are not a source of truth.

It's an illusion to think that they are, but they aren't. The stolen art that is put on NFT's from artists is still the artists one and not from the NFT creator.

Eg. https://opensea.io/DisneyCollectibles

Ontopic: the company that creates the software/game owns your account, there is literally 0 benefit for them to use a NFT.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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This article is a great example of why we need legislation around ownership of digital items. I generally hate getting the government involved in things, but if you're paying money for goods, there needs to be a way to be credited or receive your digital goods in a way that still works without your "account". Personally I always get kind of nervous around buying things on PSN, Xbox, Stadia, Steam, Oculus, etc. If the…

I think one simple legislation could help a lot: forbid to use the word 'buy' in this context. Instead it should be 'hire' or 'lease' or something. Once I 'bought' an e-book that was copy protected by Adobe (my fault I didn't read the specs before buying). But because you can only read it when Adobe's servers are online no ownership is transferred to you as buyer. You buy rights to read the book on their terms. 'Hire…

It's almost impossible to buy a DRM free book.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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These days I generally pirate the single-player content I purchase anyway. Anything that requires Origin, Epic, uPlay, or any other cancerous software to be installed gets paid for and promptly pirated. I trust the Pirate Bay more than I trust Ubisoft.

Dont you worry about Malware, Viruses and suchlike?

> Dont you worry about Malware, Viruses and suchlike?

Nowadays DRM are running in kernel mode so I'd say that the pirated version is safer in a lot of cases ...

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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Sony is extremely trigger happy with suspending based on messages. I’ve gotten a few weeks suspension for ‘harassment’ because I told someone that kept messaging me I was hacking that that was ‘honestly kind of dumb’.

If I ever make a game, I would make sure there is no public chat, and that you could only chat with people you add as friends. Imagine how easier it is to moderate, and how polite people become if you do that.

Hearthstone has exactly this system (only friends can chat with each other). What happens quite often after some matches: 1. You receive a friend request from your opponent 2. If you accept it, they probably are going to send you a bunch of insults and then unfriend you.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that? If you buy the game off Steam or something, this implies that the creators/publishers/platforms have gotten their due compensation. The cracks and files on ThePirateBay are done on a volunteer basis, meaning that it’s not costing the game developers any money.

It is costing a developer money — someone who downloads the pirated game would’ve otherwise bought it. Game devs make money on sales. However if you have already bought the game, and then download a pirated version, it isn’t.

> It is costing a developer money — someone who downloads the pirated game would’ve otherwise bought it. Game devs make money on sales.

Source? No research ever managed to prove that.

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