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Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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I'm not sure how this would prevent the scenario the article described.

I think the idea is that NFTs aren't deleteable.

Do you think the file is stored in the blockchain?!

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

#12

People won't like this, but we at Ultra.io are trying to tackle this exact problem by deploying certificates of ownership to a decentralized ledger as proof of your owning a game. AKA, we want to mint NFTs for each game sold, which allows a user to prove they own it. People hate those words, but we think that the tech has real value and a use-case in the market for solving inequity between publishers and users. This…

How does this help even the tiniest bit?

You have proof you own a game and the publisher decides they don't want you to have access anymore... now what?

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

#13

People won't like this, but we at Ultra.io are trying to tackle this exact problem by deploying certificates of ownership to a decentralized ledger as proof of your owning a game. AKA, we want to mint NFTs for each game sold, which allows a user to prove they own it. People hate those words, but we think that the tech has real value and a use-case in the market for solving inequity between publishers and users. This…

Your idea does nothing to force the service provider to retain your account, or even to provide you with access to the game media. Proof of ownership isn't the issue here. Ubisoft isn't denying that the user purchased those games. They almost certainly know exactly which games were purchased. I more or less trust the game services I use to keep a record of what I own in their central ledger. They could still deny me access, as they're doing here. Maybe some regulation should address this, but I think the market will probably handle it.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

#14

People won't like this, but we at Ultra.io are trying to tackle this exact problem by deploying certificates of ownership to a decentralized ledger as proof of your owning a game. AKA, we want to mint NFTs for each game sold, which allows a user to prove they own it. People hate those words, but we think that the tech has real value and a use-case in the market for solving inequity between publishers and users. This…

There is already proof that a user owns it, ranging from company sales records to receipts of purchase. Nobody seriously disputes the purchase and the company would not dispute it in a court of law. The problem is that you own something the company has a right to terminate.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

#15
This article is a great example of why we need legislation around ownership of digital items. I generally hate getting the government involved in things, but if you're paying money for goods, there needs to be a way to be credited or receive your digital goods in a way that still works without your "account".

Personally I always get kind of nervous around buying things on PSN, Xbox, Stadia, Steam, Oculus, etc. If they ban me, do I lose my thousands of dollars of games? That doesn't seem right (and no, I don't really care too much about what the Terms and Services say).

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

#16

People won't like this, but we at Ultra.io are trying to tackle this exact problem by deploying certificates of ownership to a decentralized ledger as proof of your owning a game. AKA, we want to mint NFTs for each game sold, which allows a user to prove they own it. People hate those words, but we think that the tech has real value and a use-case in the market for solving inequity between publishers and users. This…

So you've literally reinvented "but I have a receipt!"

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how this would prevent the scenario the article described.

I think the idea is that NFTs aren't deleteable.

In theory, sure, it has all the benefits of being immutably on the blockchain.

In practice, the whole ecosystem around NFTs is built to trust OpenSea's version of truth, so the records can be manipulated at will.

https://twitter.com/moxie/status/1454863786783875075

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

#18

People won't like this, but we at Ultra.io are trying to tackle this exact problem by deploying certificates of ownership to a decentralized ledger as proof of your owning a game. AKA, we want to mint NFTs for each game sold, which allows a user to prove they own it. People hate those words, but we think that the tech has real value and a use-case in the market for solving inequity between publishers and users. This…

People aren’t losing their receipts here, the games are being taken away even if they have them and can prove they bought it. More durable receipts won’t fix it.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

#19

People won't like this, but we at Ultra.io are trying to tackle this exact problem by deploying certificates of ownership to a decentralized ledger as proof of your owning a game. AKA, we want to mint NFTs for each game sold, which allows a user to prove they own it. People hate those words, but we think that the tech has real value and a use-case in the market for solving inequity between publishers and users. This…

they had a database entry linking his account to a purchase. it's not like his access to the game was forgotten. they just chose not to honor it. a blockchain proof isn't any more compelling than the info they already had + his payment records.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how this would prevent the scenario the article described.

I think the idea is that NFTs aren't deleteable.

You can carve your game purchases onto a stone tablet if you want to, but it doesn't make any difference unless there's someone that actually honors that NFT.

Is this "Ultra" going to mint NFTs for my Ubisoft account purchases? If it does, who honors my Ubisoft Store NFTs once Ubisoft terminates my account? Is it Ubisoft, is it Ultra or is it even Steam? And if it doesn't, what is it minting? Stuff I buy on Ultra? Because at that point the NFT might just as well be an email receipt, since I'm now relying on Ultra to actually stay alive and honor my NFTs until I die.

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