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Post by matheusmoreira »

nurettin wrote: post #251
matheusmoreira wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should go in the complete opposite direction and abolish data ownership straight up. Copyright needs to end. The second it's gone it will no longer be a crime to copy and these problems will no longer exist.

How to profit from written material without some sort of government enforcing my rights to ownership? Do I have to go begging on social media?

Don't really know. Patronage seems to be working well these days. Lots of creators seem to be finding success on services like Patreon. Also, crowdfunding. There needs to be a way to get paid before you create it for the labor of creating it. The creators and their labor are what's valuable, not the end result. Data is infinitely abundant and trying to limit access to data is just insane. It's the 21st century and we have world wide networked computers capable of copying data at massive scales at minimal cost. Paying for data just doesn't make any sense. Once it's out there it's pretty much done.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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Post by beebeepka »

Good thing Ubi hasn't released anything of interest to me in almost 20 years. Since the original XIII, really.

Pirating their crap as retribution is pointless. I went reading the original article expecting to see this happened in the US but no, it says Norway. While not EU, it's still Europe.

Shame on you, Ubi. Shame on you. This ought to be illegal. Fuck whoever came up and implemented this utter bullshit.

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Post by jorvi »

simion314 wrote: post #228
endisneigh wrote: post #15

This article is a great example of why we need legislation around ownership of digital items. I generally hate getting the government involved in things, but if you're paying money for goods, there needs to be a way to be credited or receive your digital goods in a way that still works without your "account". Personally I always get kind of nervous around buying things on PSN, Xbox, Stadia, Steam, Oculus, etc. If the…

>Personally I always get kind of nervous around buying things on PSN My PlayStation account was blocked for online games/chat for 2 months with no clear reason, this also wasted 2 months of PS Plus subscription sice I could not really benefit from it. They did not offer any way to dispute this or clarify what exactly was wrong to avoid it. My son was using the console to play Fortnite, he told me that some guy blackm…

Sony is extremely trigger happy with suspending based on messages. I’ve gotten a few weeks suspension for ‘harassment’ because I told someone that kept messaging me I was hacking that that was ‘honestly kind of dumb’.

Re: Ubisoft deleted account with hundreds of dollars’ worth of games for inactivity

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Post by nopeacefortorp »

vmception wrote: post #201
everyone wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What good private trackers still exist and are possible to join?

TL, must be run out of an embassy or Transnistria lol

According to https://opentrackers.org/torrentleech/ account creation on TL is currently open, but unfortunately when I try to create an account via Tor enabled Onion Browser on my phone nothing happens when I push submit. Even with most permissive JS settings in the browser. Sad times.

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

_3u10 wrote: post #136
Hokusai wrote: post #33

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> I don't really care too much about what the Terms and Services say It does not matter even if you care. You do not have negotiating power to change them. It is a 'my way or highway' situation. And the government should be involved, you alone cannot change the Terms of Service, but your country can create laws to protect you from thieves, whenever they steal physical or digital goods. If you don't like your governme…

Yes you do. I had a ToS with an anti competitive clause in it, no reselling, was told they needed to transfer all our customers, etc, or they and us could get fined for illegal reselling. Phoned their regulator, was told to register as a reseller, and call back if we still had issues. After the registration had been finalized we contacted our new wholesaler, all that came of it was being unable to add new accounts fo…

Did you change the TOS or just get switched to a proper account type?

These aren't the same.

Few to no companies are going to even consider changing the TOS for a small purchase like a game, a book, music, and the like. You, as a consumer, do not have this power. I'd bet that any customer service rep you talk to (if that is an option) does not have the power nor access to the right documents to allow you to change it either. You can choose to buy or choose not to. That's it.

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Post by squeaky-clean »

fivre wrote: post #237
tdrdt wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think one simple legislation could help a lot: forbid to use the word 'buy' in this context. Instead it should be 'hire' or 'lease' or something. Once I 'bought' an e-book that was copy protected by Adobe (my fault I didn't read the specs before buying). But because you can only read it when Adobe's servers are online no ownership is transferred to you as buyer. You buy rights to read the book on their terms. 'Hire…

Nobody gives a flying fuck whether the terms are legally accurate. This distinction is entirely already covered in the existing terms of service. People are annoyed that they can pay for something (sometimes an essential identity service), be arbitrarily denied it, and have no recourse other than maybe getting lucky by writing a complaint post that gets traction and read by some human who can tell the abuse departmen…

> People are annoyed that they can pay for something (sometimes an essential identity service), be arbitrarily denied it, and have no recourse other than maybe getting lucky by writing a complaint post that gets traction and read by some human who can tell the abuse department they've fricked it.

I think the reasoning for changing the verbiage from "buy" to something more truthful is because most people don't even know this is a thing. Outside of hacker news and gaming subreddits, how many people are actually aware that digital video games they've "bought" can easily be revoked? I don't believe the average person is aware.

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Post by squeaky-clean »

Hokusai wrote: post #33
endisneigh wrote: post #15

This article is a great example of why we need legislation around ownership of digital items. I generally hate getting the government involved in things, but if you're paying money for goods, there needs to be a way to be credited or receive your digital goods in a way that still works without your "account". Personally I always get kind of nervous around buying things on PSN, Xbox, Stadia, Steam, Oculus, etc. If the…

> I don't really care too much about what the Terms and Services say It does not matter even if you care. You do not have negotiating power to change them. It is a 'my way or highway' situation. And the government should be involved, you alone cannot change the Terms of Service, but your country can create laws to protect you from thieves, whenever they steal physical or digital goods. If you don't like your governme…

There's always the bay way.

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Post by deelly »

tjoff wrote: post #256
amarshall wrote: post #109

When possible, try to prefer DRM-free versions of games. If there's DRM, then one doesn't really own it. PCGamingWiki [1] is a great resource that will list the DRM status of a given game for different distributors (yes, some stores may have DRM while others do not). In general, GOG [2] is all DRM-free games. [1]: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com [2]: https://www.gog.com

Lack of DRM wouldn't help if you don't have any way of getting the copy or getting past the license check.

Wait, but DRM free means that there no license check..

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Post by trinovantes »

paxys wrote: post #28

I paid extra for a disc version of the PS5 for exactly this reason. If I buy a game today I want to be able to play it 20 years from now. I can bet money that none of the mainstream digital stores of today will be operational by then.

Can you be sure your plastic disk will still be readable in 20 years? Without redundancy, you're just shifting the point of failure elsewhere

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Post by falcor84 »

tjoff wrote: post #256
amarshall wrote: post #109

When possible, try to prefer DRM-free versions of games. If there's DRM, then one doesn't really own it. PCGamingWiki [1] is a great resource that will list the DRM status of a given game for different distributors (yes, some stores may have DRM while others do not). In general, GOG [2] is all DRM-free games. [1]: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com [2]: https://www.gog.com

Lack of DRM wouldn't help if you don't have any way of getting the copy or getting past the license check.

Doesn't DRM-free literally mean that you get a full local installation without any reliance on online licensing or any other digital restrictions?
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