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Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by sputr »

SyzygistSix wrote: post #366
sputr wrote: post #149

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All freedoms are limited by the freedoms of others. You may speak what you wish, but when and how you speak it is limited. You can not scream about it in the middle of the night, since doing so bothers your neighbors. Letting anyone and everyone do what ever they want would lead to anarchy. So no society, USA included, does this. But some actors in societies have convinced the western population, especially Americans…

I think you mean chaos rather than anarchy. Anarchy involves maximizing freedom for everyone, not just one's self, among other things. The strong doing whatever they want is the exact opposite of anarchy.

Yeah, chaos would have been a better word to use.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by tasty_freeze »

n0n0n4t0r wrote: post #35

I live in the area of Grenoble, a french city leaded by ecologists than banned ads several years ago (since 2014 if I'm correct). This is a pleasure, or, more precisely, I feel overwhelmed when I exit my city and am surrounded by so many ads! https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/20141124-fr...

Austin, TX long ago passed a law that said a billboard can be used to advertise only for the business on the parcel of land where the billboard is physically located. Thus, a car repair shop could have a billboard advertising themselves, but they are not allowed to lease it out to advertise, say, a tanning salon that is not on the same site.

At the time it was passed, any existing billboards were granted an exemption, and can be leased to show arbitrary ads. There has been a trend to replace those billboards with digital versions. Austin passed a law to prevent such conversions, but it has been challenged up to the Supreme Court, as the advertising companies which own all those "analog" billboards claim their first amendment rights have been violated.

https://www.kut.org/austin/2021-11-09/austins-billboards-sup...

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by pleb_nz »

b3morales wrote: post #378
323 wrote: post #167

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A lot of times people who loudly yell "fuck the system" are also quietly using the system when it suits them, that's my point. Bansky is no "dismantle the capitalism" hero or whatever pedestal people have him on.

It is similar to the logic of nations desiring peace but having an armed force for defense. If you are attacked and you refuse to engage in that system, disarming unilaterally, you may avoid violence, but at a loss of other values. Using the system judiciously can enable you to disengage from it in the longer term. The tradeoffs for choosing this path will be different for different situations, but I don't think it's…

Defense forces in some places serve in other defense capacities outside of military conflict. I would say they are quite desirable even in places you mentioned

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by Barrin92 »

dionidium wrote: post #328
throwawaycities wrote: post #163

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Seems like perfectly curated marketing. But I do admit I am outraged when a row of stupid fucking scooters blocks my entire running path, when it’s clearly a location no one would ever rent a scooter, rather they are there to deliberately block the path for no other purpose than obnoxious exposure of their brand. I’d love for there to be DAOs to combat those scooter companies, say for example by blocking the executiv…

Scooters are great. No scooter every meaningfully impacted my life in a city. Cars, on the other hand. Boy, if you hate scooters laying around just wait until you hear about these things clogging up every road. Drivers leave them on the street over night! Their personal property and they just...leave them parked all over the city. And they're way bigger than scooters. They block the roads. They're loud. They pollute.…

this might not be the best site to start that particular argument on because you will find a lot of people who would sign exactly what you're trying to say sarcastically, namely that cars are a menace to urban life and cities that get rid of them should be applauded.

And if you've never been annoyed by scooters you are lucky, because when that craze started in my city not only were people driving them like maniacs, they left them on sidewalks to the point where people were so pissed off they just started to throw them into the river.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by shakow »

ThunderSizzle wrote: post #390
shakow wrote: post #339

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> Want to have ads? Cookie banner. That's just wrong, you don't need a cookie banner for non-tracking ads.

You need to have a cookie banner to have a third party provide ads, which is the most common way to do ads. Regardless, I block the ads, but I'm still trying to figure out to block all the dialogs about cookies for the ads I'm blocking.

> You need to have a cookie banner to have a third party provide ads

No, you only need a cookie banner if those third parties collect data.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by shakow »

ThunderSizzle wrote: post #259
shakow wrote: post #253

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*tracking cookies First-party, non-tracking cookies do not require a cookie banner. I'm always flabbergaste how good the propaganda machines of ads agencies is that people are actively fighting protective measure on their behalf. Nihil novi sub sole I guess, but it's fascinating to see this process happen first hand.

If it took a banner for you to realize people used Google analytics or similar services, then the banner isn't helping you avoid it. You should've been running a blocker already. I run third party blockers as much as possible, but these banners are just excessive and useless.

> then the banner isn't helping you avoid it.

That's just plain false. I know many people, especially in the older, less technically literate people, who now systematically disable such analytics thanks to these banners – people who had never realised the real dimension of users tracking before this law.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by shakow »

Aerroon wrote: post #302
Nextgrid wrote: post #144

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Annoying consent flows aren't compliant, at least not with the GDPR. A compliant consent flow should make it as easy to accept as it is to decline, so pre-ticked checkboxes or hiding/burying the decline option doesn't comply. Incompetent regulators that are asleep at the wheel and still haven't done anything to punish this (GDPR went into effect in 2018) are definitely a problem though.

Even if the regulators attacked more websites it wouldn't matter. You'd just have more and more websites that block European users. You can't expect websites to give you a pop up that asks whether they can monetize your visit or not. Everyone's going to click "refuse" because ads are annoying. As a consequence your website makes no money. At that point why run the website at all? Regulators don't want to regulate too…

> As a consequence your website makes no money. At that point why run the website at all?

Many European websites are now proposing users to either accept cookies or buy a subscription to the website. This looks like a very sane way to address the problem to me.

> You'd just have more and more websites that block European users.

Why should I care? Market changes, adapt or disappear.

Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by [deleted] »

ouid wrote: post #346
blackhaz wrote: post #187

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Fuck that indeed. Very strong message here, and I love it. I wish I could take all those ads and shove them into their asses. But what is being suggested here? What's mine to take? If I see an ad, can I reuse the artwork? No. If I see a car, I can't just copy it's design. Can I just paint over it, or rip it apart? No, that would be vandalism. As much as I hate ads, THEY have re-arranged the world by paying for it in…

Banksy is talking about moral right, not legal right. This is obvious unless you're being intentionally dense. He is saying that you have cosmic permission to perform acts of vandalism to advertisements. As long as you don't get caught, you're alright with your chosen deity or whatever. It's a pretty strong philosophical argument in that direction, in my opinion. If you're disagreeing with that point, you should be e…

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Re: You block ads in your browser, why not in your city?

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Post by bestnameever »

technothrasher wrote: post #66
jcun4128 wrote: post #50

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I heard some gas stations have ads on the pump display

These pumps with “Gas Station TV” are so annoying that I go out of my way to get my gas at a different station. I’ve wondered if it actively drives other customers away too or if I’m just very sensitive to it.

The gas station tv has never bothered me but I'm also able to tune it out completely. As I think about it, I struggle to even know which gas stations use it around me.
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