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Shrooms: What You Need to Know
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#122This is a great resource to anyone interested in psychedelics in general. I've only done psychedelics twice in my lifetime, both with the same friend, and both times NOT in ideal scenarios (because we were both tripping without a sober person trip-sitting us). I would like to warn anyone interested that *tripping is risky if you suffer from high anxiety or OCD*. My first trip was an incredible experience, I couldn't…
I've tripped dozens of times on lsd, shrooms, dmt and a few RCs. I'm also suffering from such fears during the comeup. after it it's usually smooth sailing. but during my 50 to 100 trips i never actually did anything harmful in any way. so that's that. but it's really annoying.
gotta build a relationship with it. once the two of you have had a heart to heart and accepted each other, you can start smoothing things out.
talking about the fear, natch.
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#123(Using a throwaway account for obvious reasons) I had a stroke a few months ago, resulting in some long-lasting effects in my visual field. I have read reports that mushrooms can help the brain develop new connections; and I'd like to see if they can help improve my vision. But I have no idea where to get shrooms, how much to dose, etc. Any tips?
As said, grow your own. No need to deal with risky characters, you'll know exactly what you have, requires very little space, low risk as long as you can keep your lips zipped. It's about 6 weeks from inoculation of spores to first harvest, and the total investment to get started can be about $100, most of that for one-time expenses. Spores are legal to buy in most (47) states, and can be ordered from the open intern…
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#124I’ve done LSD a few times, maybe a handful, and mild doses of shrooms maybe 3 times. On higher doses of LSD (> 1 tab), I tend to get a recurring fear and visual manifestation of bugs (spiders, specially). When I’m outside on a walk while tripping I tend to be hyper-conscious of bugs and the noises they’re making. Any thoughts on why and how to deal with this? It tends to have a very negative effect on my trips but it…
A stock tactic for fears and anxieties during trips is to allow yourself to experience them, to accept them, and to allow them to pass.
Another is to put yourself is a goofy/stimulating/amusing situation that distracts the mind from the negative loops it might be manifesting.
But really, the "setting" part of "set and setting" might just mean staying away from bugsy walks and going somewhere cozy and comfortable instead.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
What kind of immediate and long-term side effects did you have, if I may ask? And what happened during the experience?
I've written in-depth about that particular experience before on here, if you're interested here are the post links: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22991744 (See chain of replies too) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22993060 Short-term side effects were acute + severe panic attacks, triggered by flashbacks and feeling as though I was physically back in the same situation/it was starting to happen again. Ev…
I think it's a shame that science does not study rare phenomena like this when they arise, I think there is a lot that could be learned from them.
> and feeling as though I was physically back in the same situation/it was starting to happen again.
> Even though entirely illogical and not being in the same place it happened, in my mind I felt dead certain that the events that had happened were starting to replay themselves and even physically I was reliving the sensations.
I once took some psychedelics and forgot I had taken them (I was also drinking beer), and I had an experience quite similar to this, but at the time had completely forgotten that I was on psychedelics. I always leave myself a note nowadays.
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#126Hmm, I worry about the doses listed. 1.6g of potent caps will get you right fucked. If you haven't done them before and are planning on having a couple drinks and socializing etc I recommend no more than 0.5g (for at least 1.5hrs) then re-access from there.
Different mushroom species have different quantities of active ingredients. Describing the dry weight of a mushroom is really only a secondary measurement of the active ingredients. Elsewhere on the website they compare 2.4g of mushrooms to about 100ug of LSD. So 1.7g of mushrooms would be equivalent of about 45ug of LSD, and the micro dose range of LSD is 5-25ug. Tripsafe is attempting to describe a light dose, whic…
Good point about the quantity of active ingredients varying by species.
It’s worth noting that GP may have been referring to the physical distribution of active ingredients within the mushroom body. The “cap” of a mushroom almost always contains significantly more active ingredients.
Thus, 1 gram of stems may yield a significantly different dose than 1 gram of “caps”.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
My experience is that LSD, when good, is great, but when bad, can be disastrous. Mushrooms, while not as crisp and euphoric as LSD, don't seem to ever leave me scarred, even with large doses. I'll be laughing about a bad trip on mushrooms after I come down, but will be left unable to function in society for 6 months after a bad trip on LSD.
Fully agree. Bad LSD trip changes your life dramatically. Bad shroom trip (example took way too much and end up in a never ending panic of “will this ever end?!”) has no long term negative effects. I also feel instantly better, smarter, happier, etc for weeks after shrooms. Don’t feel that all on LSD.
I don't like it when folks generalize from a few subjective experiences. Mushrooms and LSD are powerful catalysts and one can never be sure of what one will experience.
Even McKenna had a bad trip on psilocybin that nearly broke him:
"Terence’s pivotal, existential crisis came abruptly, some time in ’88 or ’89. Everything that happened after that event was fallout. I don’t know exactly when it happened, and I don’t know exactly what happened; I am piecing it together from what Kat [his wife at the time] has told me, and she has volunteered few details, and I am reluctant to probe.
It happened when they were living for a time on the big island, and it was a mushroom trip they shared that was absolutely terrifying for Terence. It was terrifying because, for some reason, the mushroom turned on him. The gentle, wise, humorous mushroom spirit that he had come to know and trust as an ally and teacher ripped back the facade to reveal an abyss of utter existential despair. Terence kept saying, so Kat told me, that it was “a lack of all meaning, a lack of all meaning.” And this induced panic in Terence, and probably, I speculate, a feeling he was going mad. He couldn’t deal with it. Kat’s efforts to reassure him were fruitless. After that experience, he never again took mushrooms, and he took other psychedelics, such as DMT and ayahuasca, only on rare occasions and with great reluctance.
Whatever the specific content of the psychedelic experience might have been that triggered the cognitive collapse of Terence’s worldview and precipitated his existential crisis, what was most remarkable was that he did not see it coming. He did not see it coming."
— From Dennis McKenna, The Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss: My Life with Terence McKenna, now excised
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#128Keep in mind that “harm reduction” material shouldn’t be interpreted as a guide to avoiding all potential negative consequences. When it comes to psychedelics, the pendulum of popular opinion has swung from an extreme of “extremely bad for you” to “actually good for you” but neither extreme is good, IMO. It’s worth reading some of the material about how psychedelic users are weirdly prone to picking up strange belief…
Responses to your comment are contrary, but my anecdata: Just after I moved away from a particular social scene, a bunch of close friends in it got very into psychedelics. Weekly usage or more frequent, all different kinds of che,ical (‘pure’ lsd, street acid, shrooms, DMT, RCs, etc.) Many of them did adopt some real wacky beliefs that they have held onto many years past their use. ‘Radicality’ of belief seemed propo…
> They all felt they were in touch with greater truths and pitied me and my judgement; my self-restriction of perception. They have a lot of flowery language about how I can’t know what I can’t see that you have to be some sort of logician to parse.
This concept has been promoted by philosophers and mystics for centuries and is completely consistent with mainstream neuroscience and psychology. I'm not saying that your friends genuinely transcended this barrier, but that they didn't and thought they did is not a proof that such a realm does not exist.
> They are out of touch with reality.
Surely. But, do you believe that you are accurately in touch with reality?
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Also never do drugs "because it makes you feel better when you are sad". It's not risk free, but I disagree with this as absolute advice, a trip can fill up one's spiritual gas tank to keep on moving forward, they can demonstrate that one's depression is largely illusory.
Sure. But for a "one time" or "very small number of times". I was mostly referring to falling into an habit to numb the pain
> But for a "one time" or "very small number of times".
Is this based on personal experience, clinical studies, something else?
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
My experience is that LSD, when good, is great, but when bad, can be disastrous. Mushrooms, while not as crisp and euphoric as LSD, don't seem to ever leave me scarred, even with large doses. I'll be laughing about a bad trip on mushrooms after I come down, but will be left unable to function in society for 6 months after a bad trip on LSD.
Mushrooms are a journey in a car with suspension and comfortable seating. LSD is the same journey in a car with no shocks, metal benches, and no seatbelt. Sometimes the trips are similar but if you hit a bumpy spot the results are quite different. In practice I have seen several people do a lot of LSD and kind of “not come back all the way.” Don’t recall seeing the same with other psychedelics. I would caution people…
It has the nickname 'Acid' because it's literally Lysergic acid diethylamide.