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Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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I feel like I'm alone in this, but I don't like mushrooms. I usually have unpleasant body effects, and I don't like the trip generally. I'm fairly confident in my ability to have dosed as responsibly as possible with a biological product. Usually, though, I just feel weird and uncomfortable for 10. LSD, by comparison, is positively therapeutic for me.

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Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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What you need to know is that it will make you dumb and stupid, and you'll sit there giggling to yourself incapable of any coherent thought, like a drooling idiot. At least that's what it'll look like from the outside. From the inside, you'll feel like you've opened a door to a magical land of true understanding, like the veneer of convention has peeled off the world and you can finally see the underlying superstrutu…

Is there anything about the studies on safety linked in the article that you would specifically refute?

I think you are right that particular substances have immediate, serious, irreversible harm to your brain.

Psilocybin is not one of those substances.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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I dont think anyone informed say psychedelic are "extremely bad for you"

Well, these plants obliterate tons of (anti-depressant) revenues for the pharma industry, which is why they deploy their FUD and disinformation army. Hence the "extremely bad for you" astroturfing.

Fair enough

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

#54

Keep in mind that “harm reduction” material shouldn’t be interpreted as a guide to avoiding all potential negative consequences. When it comes to psychedelics, the pendulum of popular opinion has swung from an extreme of “extremely bad for you” to “actually good for you” but neither extreme is good, IMO. It’s worth reading some of the material about how psychedelic users are weirdly prone to picking up strange belief…

> “thoughts and feelings imparted by psychedelics aren’t real ...” I mean, in what possible way are they “less real” than thoughts and feelings imparted by any other cause? This is your body, doing the thing in reaponse to a stimulus. This may be an atypical stimulus generating very different than usual responses, but they’re certainly real

Clearly it depends on your definition of real.

But it’s not a complicated concept to get. Like a person who is drunk might see double, when in fact there is one object. A person who is on a lot of amphetamines might believe they are being purposely followed when in fact there are no people intentionally following them.

Those perceptions are not real, in any commonly understood meaning of the word. It’s easy to understand what the parent comment meant in that context as well.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

#55

I feel like I'm alone in this, but I don't like mushrooms. I usually have unpleasant body effects, and I don't like the trip generally. I'm fairly confident in my ability to have dosed as responsibly as possible with a biological product. Usually, though, I just feel weird and uncomfortable for 10. LSD, by comparison, is positively therapeutic for me.

My experience is that LSD, when good, is great, but when bad, can be disastrous. Mushrooms, while not as crisp and euphoric as LSD, don't seem to ever leave me scarred, even with large doses. I'll be laughing about a bad trip on mushrooms after I come down, but will be left unable to function in society for 6 months after a bad trip on LSD.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “thoughts and feelings imparted by psychedelics aren’t real ...” I mean, in what possible way are they “less real” than thoughts and feelings imparted by any other cause? This is your body, doing the thing in reaponse to a stimulus. This may be an atypical stimulus generating very different than usual responses, but they’re certainly real

Clearly it depends on your definition of real. But it’s not a complicated concept to get. Like a person who is drunk might see double, when in fact there is one object. A person who is on a lot of amphetamines might believe they are being purposely followed when in fact there are no people intentionally following them. Those perceptions are not real, in any commonly understood meaning of the word. It’s easy to unders…

If you get angry at someone and later realize it was just a misunderstanding, is that "real" anger?

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Never did any type of psychedelics. You don't read much about "death by misadventure" associated with them though. I'm curious about this. Alcohol, for example, is pretty famous for clouding judgement, reducing inhibition, and so on. Such that otherwise rational people drive intoxicated, get into fights, fall asleep in inappropriate places, fall off of and into things, etc. Psychedelics obviously cause you to halluci…

My dad had some pretty wild stories about near-death misadventures. He stopped after he came home tripping and my mom made him change a diaper... I learned from these stories: don't drive on hallucinogens, and don't trip when you've got real-life responsibilities.

Driving on hallucinogens? Whenever I've taken LSD it was quite clear that I couldn't and shouldn't drive. It's not like alcohol, where you think you can drive. With LSD you very clearly have the presence of mind to know you can't.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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This is a great resource to anyone interested in psychedelics in general. I've only done psychedelics twice in my lifetime, both with the same friend, and both times NOT in ideal scenarios (because we were both tripping without a sober person trip-sitting us). I would like to warn anyone interested that *tripping is risky if you suffer from high anxiety or OCD*. My first trip was an incredible experience, I couldn't…

Sounds familiar, what is harm OCD?

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

#59

I did 2g of dried shrooms about a week ago, having almost no prior experience. It was fun - I was seeing funny things, my friends looked funny, I laughed a lot, was a lot more talkative and social. My only issue was a tension headache which started about when the first effects came on and was even worse the day after, lashing until about 24 hours after the mushrooms were taken. My friends did not get the headache. Ot…

I ate 8g of dried shrooms a few days ago. Once things really got going, I spent the time mostly in the dark at home focusing on whatever came to me. The intentions I set were for ego death of some kind. Much of it was spent grieving childhood trauma and the state of the world, most of which was done while singing, snorting, making other mouth noises, laughing, crying, or some combination of those. Yesterday, I realiz…

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Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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Never did any type of psychedelics. You don't read much about "death by misadventure" associated with them though. I'm curious about this. Alcohol, for example, is pretty famous for clouding judgement, reducing inhibition, and so on. Such that otherwise rational people drive intoxicated, get into fights, fall asleep in inappropriate places, fall off of and into things, etc. Psychedelics obviously cause you to halluci…

Once, I ate 9 grams of dried shrooms, which is something like 3-4x the average dosage and almost double of what's called an heroic dose. I went into the most intense trip I ever had. During the trip, I called a friend because I was kinda scared, he said that if I hadn't told him about the shrooms, he would've thought I was completely sober.

Now, give me a couple of beers and I'll be slurring in no time.

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