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Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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If you ever had this feeling telling you "This can't be it, there must be more to this story...", then you should at least consider this avenue.

I love this. This was me in 2017 and following the white rabbit led to a most spectacular year. It really is a birth right, and people chosing ‘no’ are really missing out on a fundamental aspect of being alive. On another note, I always love psych threads on HN. High quality posts all around.

I feel a bit sad hearing this, I'm a pretty anxious person so I'll probably never experiment. While I love reading about people's experiences I often hear warnings that people like me should stay far far away.

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Never did any type of psychedelics. You don't read much about "death by misadventure" associated with them though. I'm curious about this. Alcohol, for example, is pretty famous for clouding judgement, reducing inhibition, and so on. Such that otherwise rational people drive intoxicated, get into fights, fall asleep in inappropriate places, fall off of and into things, etc. Psychedelics obviously cause you to halluci…

The hallucination affected by psychedelics such as mushrooms isn't what you might expect. It's not a fully synthetic kind of "i now see an object that is not actually there". There won't be a floating pink elephant in the middle of the room. Instead the effect at most normal doses (3.5g) is more that the walls and floors seem to take on a slightly ephemeral breathing characteristic. You may see patterns in things of…

It takes 6 mg to make me trip. Even then it’s very mild visual oddities.

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(Using a throwaway account for obvious reasons) I had a stroke a few months ago, resulting in some long-lasting effects in my visual field. I have read reports that mushrooms can help the brain develop new connections; and I'd like to see if they can help improve my vision. But I have no idea where to get shrooms, how much to dose, etc. Any tips?

As said, grow your own. No need to deal with risky characters, you'll know exactly what you have, requires very little space, low risk as long as you can keep your lips zipped. It's about 6 weeks from inoculation of spores to first harvest, and the total investment to get started can be about $100, most of that for one-time expenses. Spores are legal to buy in most (47) states, and can be ordered from the open internet. If you're in one of the 3 non-legal states, or a non-legal country, there are online spore print exchanges. After buying once, you can propagate from your own spore prints, or from clones.

I would not rely on Reddit for your cultivation advice. Try shroomery.org, an old school web 1.0 forum that's been around since 1997. People who have participated there for years and are recognized as experts are marked with a "Trusted Cultivator" badge. Yes, it is actually possible to grow shrooms on Uncle Ben's precooked microwavable rice packets, but it is not a recommended practice due to high percent of batches lost to mold/bacterial contamination before the spores can germinate. It's just too wet of a substrate and doesn't have adequate airflow for oxygen that the mycelium needs to grow. I have tried it even though I usually use more advanced techniques, and lost 4 of 8 bags to contamination, even though I used above average sterile handling methods.

The PF Tek method is considered a reliable method for beginners that minimizes the equipment you need to buy, and is recommend in the shroomery.org's "getting started" sticky thread: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2442017... The thread also has links to spore vendors who have been vetted as reliable.

There is a also a discussion forum on the site for those who choose to use shrooms medicinally, including microdosing, recommended micro/macro dosages and dosing practices, etc.

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My experience is that LSD, when good, is great, but when bad, can be disastrous. Mushrooms, while not as crisp and euphoric as LSD, don't seem to ever leave me scarred, even with large doses. I'll be laughing about a bad trip on mushrooms after I come down, but will be left unable to function in society for 6 months after a bad trip on LSD.

Fully agree. Bad LSD trip changes your life dramatically. Bad shroom trip (example took way too much and end up in a never ending panic of “will this ever end?!”) has no long term negative effects. I also feel instantly better, smarter, happier, etc for weeks after shrooms. Don’t feel that all on LSD.

Had a truly terrible LSD trip a while ago, took a couple weeks to shake off and I never really felt "the same" afterwards. I'm not here to spread FUD, but goddamn is it a powerful chemical. Some people (myself included) underestimate the amount of mental rewiring it can do if you're not careful.

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Hmm, I worry about the doses listed. 1.6g of potent caps will get you right fucked. If you haven't done them before and are planning on having a couple drinks and socializing etc I recommend no more than 0.5g (for at least 1.5hrs) then re-access from there.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience is that LSD, when good, is great, but when bad, can be disastrous. Mushrooms, while not as crisp and euphoric as LSD, don't seem to ever leave me scarred, even with large doses. I'll be laughing about a bad trip on mushrooms after I come down, but will be left unable to function in society for 6 months after a bad trip on LSD.

Mushrooms are a journey in a car with suspension and comfortable seating. LSD is the same journey in a car with no shocks, metal benches, and no seatbelt. Sometimes the trips are similar but if you hit a bumpy spot the results are quite different. In practice I have seen several people do a lot of LSD and kind of “not come back all the way.” Don’t recall seeing the same with other psychedelics. I would caution people…

For me it is the opposite, LSD is the safe one, shrooms being more difficult - I suspect this is caused by LSD additionaly being a dopamine receptor agonist, which is better for my brain (I also like hippie/candyflips for the same reason I suspect).

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When reading advice before my last trip, it occurred to me there's a lot of fear-mongering around psychedelics due to judgment. People judging experiences as positive/negative distracts from what's going on. Simply labeling challenging-to-accept experiences as "bad" and large doses as "heroic" is enough to establish a distracting delusion. It was upon realizing this that I decided I understood how to approach the mus…

Fair enough, but I would disagree on the point about taking an unknown amount (unless I misunderstood?). In my view correct dosing is one of the best ways to achieve a safe experience. One of the biggest issues with such substances is that most users will have no idea how strong the dose is, or if it is even what it says it is. Courage is one thing, but overdosing is not a pleasant experience, even if it is usually n…

I agree. It really depends on the substance, of course. 5g+ (for the species I was visiting with) is considered the high end. I was also not necessarily seeking a pleasant experience. I was seeking to uproot violent urge within me that kept rising up from chronically not being heard (and that includes not hearing myself).

A high dose of mushrooms is way way different than a high dose of LSD or cannabis.

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(Using a throwaway account for obvious reasons) I had a stroke a few months ago, resulting in some long-lasting effects in my visual field. I have read reports that mushrooms can help the brain develop new connections; and I'd like to see if they can help improve my vision. But I have no idea where to get shrooms, how much to dose, etc. Any tips?

Look into growing them from uncle Ben’s rice. Doesn’t get easier. Spores can be legally bought online in most states and no special equipment is necessary. Just plan on doing a triple batch as without proper lab equipment, the chance of contamination is higher.

Any place to buy them? I am not too far from Santa Cruz, CA and Oakland CA. I hear it's legal in Santa Cruz.

Re: Shrooms: What You Need to Know

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(Using a throwaway account for obvious reasons) I had a stroke a few months ago, resulting in some long-lasting effects in my visual field. I have read reports that mushrooms can help the brain develop new connections; and I'd like to see if they can help improve my vision. But I have no idea where to get shrooms, how much to dose, etc. Any tips?

Arm chair neuropharmacologist here, thinking you should look into microdosing along with lion's mane mushrooms.

That's what I have read. The problem is acquiring quality mushrooms.

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Hmm, I worry about the doses listed. 1.6g of potent caps will get you right fucked. If you haven't done them before and are planning on having a couple drinks and socializing etc I recommend no more than 0.5g (for at least 1.5hrs) then re-access from there.

Different mushroom species have different quantities of active ingredients. Describing the dry weight of a mushroom is really only a secondary measurement of the active ingredients.

Elsewhere on the website they compare 2.4g of mushrooms to about 100ug of LSD. So 1.7g of mushrooms would be equivalent of about 45ug of LSD, and the micro dose range of LSD is 5-25ug. Tripsafe is attempting to describe a light dose, which should include only minor visuals. They are likely using P. Cubensis to describe dosage, which is very common in North America, but only half the potency of the most potent psychedelic mushrooms. “Liberty cabs” or P. Semilanceata are more common in Europe, and are often more potent than P. Cubensis.

There might also be a cultural difference on the expectations for a psychedelic experiences and the activities one should do during it.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Psilocybe_species

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