Seeing this reminds me of a link I posted recently. This youtube video features investigation into supposed concentration camps in Xinjiang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI8bJO-to8I
I'm posting it again because it seems like the kind of video that needs to be seen.
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#322Sad to see Intel and others be so spineless.
Corporations are spineless, both literally and figuratively.
Spineless corporations Reminds me of title of TV series about Mafia : La piovra
"An epic crime saga of power, money, violence and corruption. the mafia controls everything through local and international networks like an octopus, anyone who tries to bring them down pays the ultimate price."
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I think AMD has less (possibly much less) in China than Intel. I spent about €200,000 on AMD servers last year. They are performing better than Intel ones would have done at the same price, so it was a very easy decision.
isn't this exactly the opposite? IIRC there was a situation where a large-ish? AMD subdivision in china was nationalized and made off with a considerable amount of AMD IP
you're thinking of ARM
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The question "can government be trusted" is long answered with a resounding NO it can not Government like fire is a useful servant, but a fearful master. This is why we have separation of powers, checks and balances, and a federalist system in the US, because we understand government can never, and should never be trusted. Government is control, government is fear, government is power. Power Corrupts, and the only wa…
This is all well and nice in theory, but in practice a feeble government just means leaving abandoning the weak to the whims of the strong
Ironically I view giving democratic governments more power as abandoning the weak to the whims of the majority, which we have seen time and time again in history even recent history
Democracy after all is 2 wolves and lamb voting on what is for dinner, a constitutional republic backed by distributed governance is the lamb having rights to tell the majority to f' off
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If you allow me to throw in an idea, and please correct me if you see fit. In earlier times the Confucian pacifist ways of China were not up to the aggression of Western Europe, the US and Japan. In more recent times they learned to deal better with these foreign powers. The last thing they want is to give up their autonomy and culture and get run over by all these well meaning politicians that are very much after po…
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Imagine thinking you can arbitrate a different cultures ethical queries. Newsflash, ethics are subjective.
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If you break the HN guidelines this badly again we will ban you. They explicitly ask you not to post like this, for deep, clear, and long-established reasons (which can be summed up like this: well over 99.9% of internet complaints about astroturfing and shillage are demonstrably unfounded, and also full of poison that we don't want here). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html If you want further explanati…
>[FooBarWidget is] a CCP apologist par excellence, so you shamelessly referencing propagandists is not as surreal as initially perceived, just some casual undercover shilling. >well over 99.9% of internet complaints about astroturfing and shillage are demonstrably unfounded, and also full of poison that we don't want here). This is firmly in the 0.1%. https://twitter.com/honglilai
Perhaps I need to remind you that astroturfing and shilling mean being paid to say certain things. Why would I accept such payments when I already have a well-paid career? My HN profile is 14 years old, and you can see that before 2020 I basically never posted anything about China. Posting about China is just a hobby, man. I have a day job as a software developer.
There is a reason why I post these things on my public handle: to make the point that I'm not just a random bot. Unlike some other people, who post anonymously out of fear of being socially ostricized, and who have been wrongly called "bots" or "shills" merely for having a different opinion, I choose not to be afraid and not to be silenced.
You should just accept that my opinions are my own, are genuine, and are independently constructed without anyone instructing me. And that merely having a different opinion than the one you want to accept, doesn't make that person a shill.
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#327>Intel joined other prominent U.S. companies Monday pledging to do more to address systemic racism in the wake of the killing of an African-American man, George Floyd, by a police officer in Minneapolis. >“Black lives matter. Period,” CEO Bob Swan wrote in a memo to employees Monday, embracing the rallying cry of contemporary civil rights activists. “While racism can look very different around the world, one thing th…
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What is wrong with clavicat's comment? He is pointing out the hypocrisy of Intel claiming not to tolerate any form of racist. Genocide is by definition racist.
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> I see people -- including Chinese diaspora -- calling for banning Intel. Is this feasible? There's not all that many other options for x86
I doubt it. China is not there yet w.r.t. semiconductor independence. There are people who say, buy AMD, but AMD is also subject to US laws... So what will happen instead? From what I've seen so far, China is careful with counterattacking US because they know the US is stronger. I think the govt will just issue an angry statement but do nothing concrete internationally, while continuing their domestic efforts of semi…
Alibaba recently announced new CPU they developed based on ARM: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/alibaba-unveils-128-core-s...
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That’s an incredibly serious claim to make, do you have evidence to support your claims?
It's not particularly controversial. Here's the NY version, for example. https://corcraft.ny.gov/ There's an explicit carve out in the 13th amendment's slavery prohibition for people convicted of crimes.
They make signs and license plates for the state. As far as prison labor goes, that seems relatively benign.
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There is a diff between not being a troll and being respectful of alleged human rights abuses. Suggesting that we must be respectful in the light of massive human rights violations is how those human rights violations get to take place. This is the same sort of peak Silicon Valley technocrat mindset that led to things like apologizing for not sourcing parts from forced labor in China and sites like reddit holding on to jailbait, involuntary porn/voyeur, and literal hate subreddits out of fear of taking any stance.