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Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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> The key is in possession of the judicial system. It can only be decrypted and examined with a warrant, with probable cause, as you would need for wiretapping That's how you end up with the NSA and CIA being inside every single camera in the country :)

You can regulate the NSA and CIA too, if you really want.

Tell that to John Kennedy.

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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post #51

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> The key is in possession of the judicial system. It can only be decrypted and examined with a warrant, with probable cause, as you would need for wiretapping That's how you end up with the NSA and CIA being inside every single camera in the country :)

As if they aren't already.

are they? or is this baseless speculation

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

#73
post #49

As I heard "somewhere", 'now that they have forced you to wear a mask, dont remove it ;)' (I know the profiling works even whit only the eye section yet you get the gist)

"I wear my sunglasses at night, so I can so I can..." avoid an automated surveillance state.

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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post #57

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Hardly sounds trivial, and how would you ever enforce or manage that? Also, that is totally counter to the current (US) laws that basically state you can record video (not audio) of any publicly viewable areas freely. What you propose would require massive changes to essentially any camera that has any part of its view covering an outdoor area, and probably many indoor areas (malls, etc.). Also, face recognition typi…

Where I am the law is very strict although somewhat arbitrary. I can shoot a video of a public place. I can publish the material (although commercial use requires sign off naturally). But here is the interesting bit: I can’t set up a fixed camera to record a public space without permission. And I won’t get that permission. Meaning basically that recording in public spaces is only done by humans, limiting the scope of…

Do you have the text of the law for this? I suspect you're overstating the restrictions.

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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post #57

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Hardly sounds trivial, and how would you ever enforce or manage that? Also, that is totally counter to the current (US) laws that basically state you can record video (not audio) of any publicly viewable areas freely. What you propose would require massive changes to essentially any camera that has any part of its view covering an outdoor area, and probably many indoor areas (malls, etc.). Also, face recognition typi…

Where I am the law is very strict although somewhat arbitrary. I can shoot a video of a public place. I can publish the material (although commercial use requires sign off naturally). But here is the interesting bit: I can’t set up a fixed camera to record a public space without permission. And I won’t get that permission. Meaning basically that recording in public spaces is only done by humans, limiting the scope of…

Sounds like Japan. But most countries that is not the case. People want to protect their property. Also with hidden cameras it would be trivial to do so and not be detected so in your country those who want to record are already doing it just quietly. So again it is a law that only effects non criminals.

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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post #56

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> strict legal framework for its implementation And that might turn this technology into something that only big company can afford, artificially created a pro-monopoly environment. The problem is complex.

Not really. I don't mind there being a near-monopoly on facial recognition software if it takes a large company to handle the needed guidelines and potential liabilities.

One doesn’t mind until it turns on one, typically. It’s all fine until the monopoly stops operating in good faith and it’s too late to stop it.

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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post #31

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Explain this to the folks at home: https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/85qnx5/george_orwel...

yes, having one CCTV is exactly the same situation as covering every square meter like in London. /s

I most certainly didn't imply that (:

But you did say it was illegal. Seems to me there are exceptions if that picture is to be trusted.e

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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If they ban facial recognition then companies will start using other tech like gait recognition. So are we wanting to ban facial recognition or is it something more like the right to not be tracked(if that even is a right). I think we need to establish what our end goal is because you know clever companies will find a way around such restrictions and find other creative ways. They will use shoe detection instead or something maybe not as accurate but enough to get them around the law but still detect a percentage of criminals. Or jewelry detections or tattoo or whatever isn’t banned by law.
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