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Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement

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Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement

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Post by RyEgswuCsn »

baybal2 wrote: post #105
logicchains wrote: post #53

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>If I'm mistaken - please provide references, preferably to non-US-aligned media sources. Here's an official Chinese government source defending the use of labour/"re-education" camps in Xinjiang: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201903/19/WS5c9033f0a3106c65c... . In past the Chinese government didn't send large numbers of people to camps based on their ethnicity.

> In past the Chinese government didn't send large numbers of people to camps based on their ethnicity. In past the Chinese government did send large numbers of people to camps based on their ethnicity. Tibetans - since 1957 Mongols - since its first years Miao/Yao - 1982 Koreans - Koreans Chinese were routinely rounded up every time NK-China affairs were flaring up since seventies And Uighurs were in, and out of con…

First time learning about these. Any sources?

Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement

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Post by RyEgswuCsn »

Traster wrote: post #70
hkt wrote: post #48

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Objective facts can become very hard to discern in a highly partisan environment though. That's the problem with how lots of US (and UK, etc) media works: there's obvious partisanship which can make it hard to extract the truth. Everything ends up as "the truth + highly political framing devices". There is no outside to observe from.

There’s obvious partisanship in uk and us media, but the difference vs totalitarian states like China, is that the partisanship is in a thousand different directions. So in the US or UK you have access to all agendas and can reason for yourself about what is true. If Fox says something untrue MSNBC will point it out, if the New York Times gets something wrong it’ll be all over OAN. If AOC lies about something you’ll…

> If Fox says something untrue MSNBC will point it out, if the New York Times gets something wrong it’ll be all over OAN. If AOC lies about something you’ll have Lauren Boebert screaming about it.

And if all these media outlets say Russia/China/Iraq/Iran is evil at the same time, then it must be true, right?

Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement

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Post by drekk »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #52
xwolfi wrote: post #29

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If we can't employ Xinjian people anymore, what do you propose we do with them ?

Set them free.

The onus is on you to show that they aren't. Have you been to Xinjiang? Prior to the pandemic one could simply visit and see for themselves

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Post by hnfong »

BrazzVuvuzela wrote: post #113
cnlevy wrote: post #96

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cancel culture doesn't originate in China. It's an evolution of the western idea of equality and individualism taken to an extreme

Cancel culture isn't that either. Cancel culture is a rebranding of 'shunning', which I bet predates humans as we know them. I bet our social monkey predecessors had such tactics figured out. Read this and tell me it isn't 'cancel culture': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning#Overview Bonus: 'shadow-banning' is stealth shunning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning#Stealth_shunning

How about this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excommunication

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Post by jtdev »

iszomer wrote: post #86
marderfarker2 wrote: post #78

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I’ve always thought it to be the reverse, since the west has the whole world at their disposal (in terms of audience and technology penetration)

Ever bought something you believed was Made in Japan but found out later it was actually Made in China ?

Yes, it’s one reason that I let my Amazon Prime membership lapse and rarely purchase anything from Amazon now.

Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement

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Post by BrazzVuvuzela »

hnfong wrote: post #135
BrazzVuvuzela wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cancel culture isn't that either. Cancel culture is a rebranding of 'shunning', which I bet predates humans as we know them. I bet our social monkey predecessors had such tactics figured out. Read this and tell me it isn't 'cancel culture': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning#Overview Bonus: 'shadow-banning' is stealth shunning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning#Stealth_shunning

How about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excommunication

Another word for basically the same thing, yes. Excommunication is top-down directed shunning.

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Post by tomohawk »

andy_ppp wrote: post #11

I think we should stop using China for cheap Labour in general given how hostile their government are becoming. Where possible I try to buy Taiwanese, Korean and Japanese electronics.

Especially given the horrors of forced organ transplants from prisoners by the CCP.

https://chinatribunal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ChinaTr...

Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement

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Post by mrweasel »

I really don't understand China, but China also don't care to understand the west one bit. China has zero cultural understand about anything beyond its borders and basically only survives on other cultures being either extremely flexible or completely dependent on China for manufacturing (or both).

We're basically just waiting for companies to pull manufacturing from China, because they can deal with the backlash at home for ever, or some western leader to snap and just tell China to "Go kill whoever you need to get rid of so we can move on".

Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement

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Post by alisonkisk »

enkid wrote: post #117
andy_ppp wrote: post #11

I think we should stop using China for cheap Labour in general given how hostile their government are becoming. Where possible I try to buy Taiwanese, Korean and Japanese electronics.

Don't many of these companies still do final assembly in China? Foxconn is notorious for it's labor practices in China, but is a Taiwanese company. How can someone separate Chinese assembly from the rest of the product?

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