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I have a friend that does this, has 3 jobs...makes nearly 500k. IMHO, it's not worth the stress though.
I know people that make more than 7 figures with one job. Is your friend located intentionally or something? Otherwise I don't see the point.
I have a friend that does this, has 3 jobs...makes nearly 500k. IMHO, it's not worth the stress though.
I know people that make more than 7 figures with one job. Is your friend located intentionally or something? Otherwise I don't see the point.
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Of course, if you're an hourly employee and don't (as you mostly shouldn't) have non compete clauses of some sort it's mostly fine. However, as a salaried employer who generally can't also work for a competitor, it's pretty scummy unless it's something unrelated and you're putting in your hours--which it would be hard to do. I'm sure there are "life hacking" people who think this is fine but it's really not. And if y…
Right, I'm assuming the two companies would be in completely different spaces. Otherwise I'd have significant ethical concerns.
But these sorts of stories are basically all about people having two full-time tech jobs and time slicing them--including possibly outsourcing some of the work.
ADDED: And maybe it's just a function of the sort of job I have but what are these extremely well-paid jobs where you're some anonymous drone where a wide range of people in the industry aren't very familiar with who you work for.
I see a lot of people talking about reputational risk around this, but I'd be more worried about the legal implications. Most of us have contracts that grant IP of what we create to our employer at least during work hours - if you get caught doing this how do the IP implications unwind given that both your employers have the same rights to what you produced? Would it be legally equivalent to selling a bunch of IP tha…
Some folks are possibly writing the tech that is overseeing others...
I see a lot of people talking about reputational risk around this, but I'd be more worried about the legal implications. Most of us have contracts that grant IP of what we create to our employer at least during work hours - if you get caught doing this how do the IP implications unwind given that both your employers have the same rights to what you produced? Would it be legally equivalent to selling a bunch of IP tha…
I'd also be intrigued about how it interacts with contracts that say everything you do/think in your spare time belongs to the company (a nonsense condition, but whatever)
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I know people that make more than 7 figures with one job. Is your friend located intentionally or something? Otherwise I don't see the point.
Do you make seven figures with one job? I have zero friends that do.
It is called "wire fraud" a federal crime. The US has a ridiculous punishment for it [1]. Wire fraud is the favorite of the feds since it is loosely defined and easy to prosecute. Feds also use this law to get people to turn on others due to it's extreme punishments (you will sing). If you sign anything stating this is your only job - don't do this. (1) that the defendant voluntarily and intentionally devised or part…
Gordon Gecko might say these people are performing service to the public by helping poorly managed companies go bankrupt faster, but it's still unethical because the goal seems to be to massively underwork at each job.
On the other hand, I think that it should be reasonable for software engineers to work two jobs, as long as they are not competitors and there are no intellectual property concerns. Just like any other employee, some people want to work two jobs, and I'm actually disappointed it's not more common to arrange for multiple legitimate jobs (two part time, or one full time one part time) in the tech industry.
I see a lot of people talking about reputational risk around this, but I'd be more worried about the legal implications. Most of us have contracts that grant IP of what we create to our employer at least during work hours - if you get caught doing this how do the IP implications unwind given that both your employers have the same rights to what you produced? Would it be legally equivalent to selling a bunch of IP tha…
Thinking a customer was calling he answered the wrong phone and said the wrong company name, but it was actually his bosses boss.
Company fired him, and actually went so far as to threaten to sue the guy until he agreed to pay restitution (one year pay), and they told the other company who fired him. I don’t know if the other company did anything else.
Dude was a bad apple / trying to find a way to skirt every rule / do as little work as possible anyway so I suspect if push came to shove they could have proven he really hadn’t done the work he claimed and was busy not working most of the time.
I really didn’t expect they would take it that far, company didn’t need his money, but I believe someone wanted to make an example of him. Can’t blame them.