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Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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You've broken the site guidelines egregiously here. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting to HN, we'd appreciate it. " Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data…

I understand why the rule is in place. I regret to say I had forgotten the rule. My sincere apologies.

Appreciated!

Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Whoa - you can't break the site guidelines like this, and certainly not repeatedly ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29616354 ). We ban accounts that do this, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules, we'd appreciate it.

Hi dang, will be mindful to reply with more context, thank you for the warning. What can we do about commenters that spew misinformation or twist issues? Is there a report option?

You can flag comments and, in egregious cases, email us at hn@ycombinator.com. That's in the guidelines. Would you mind reviewing them?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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> Its incorrect to call opening an office for Taiwan a "rash, emotional move" > but I was not specifically referring to that but rather to closing the embassy in China and other actions against China Could you clarify what other actions did Lithuania take against China? This is the timeline afaik [0]: - In August 2021, the ROC opened its representative office in Vilnius under the name of "Taiwanese" - In response, th…

Don't forget, there are hundreds of thousands of people employed by China to manipulate public opinion about China online. Looking at the comment history of the person you responded to, they post pro-China stuff a lot . This is probably not a conversation being had in good faith by two disinterested parties. You're responding to a member of the 50 cent army. They're everywhere online now. Some subtle, some not so sub…

You can't post like this to HN—it's egregiously against the site guidelines, and we ban accounts that do it. If you would please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules in the future, we'd be grateful. Don't miss this one:

"Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data."

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If you want explanation as to why we have this rule, there is many years' worth at this link:

https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

also:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398725

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26652363 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397695

Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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This goes a fair bit beyond “disproportionate imprisonment”, as I’m sure you know.

i'm not sure i know anything about uigars, or china more broadly. i've heard things. that doesn't mean i know anything.

Read more.

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The endgame is robotic replacement for skilled labor. The pandemic has forced technology companies to push harder on communication products and development of virtual places. Severely diminished trade with China would require an acceleration in manufacturing technology on a scale that could only be borne out of necessity. Recognizing that robotics technology is orders of magnitude more challenging than an improved Zo…

Sure that will be a lot of it. Robots also require lots and lots of both skilled and unskilled labor to maintain. Christopher Mims has a great pop business book out this year about the state of automation in logistics and industry. One of the emphases he makes is which things are being automated now and what types of jobs for people that automation creates at multiple skill levels and social classes. I think when it…

> because that would predispose the legislator or the staffers supporting the legislator to think about what they could do to quash it.

Fwiw, I see only a downward trend in the effectiveness of governments larger than cities to contain or regulate technology. What is possible is changing too fast.

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What's absolutely disgusting is you misrepresenting my views like that in order to smear me just because you don't like the fact that I have a different opinion about China. If you read that thread it is perfectly clear that I merely pointed out that different opinions about the situation exists without giving my own view, but that's not acceptable to you because you seek to doxx. To be perfectly clear, if that wasn'…

You presented yourself as an authority (native speaker) and provided a translation + opinion of her statement. You omitted the part about her crying, etc. Why? And why do you refuse to you update us on your opinion now that the omission has been pointed out? Again, the question: does your opinion of her statement change when considering the panicked crying (that you casually omitted) which was pointed out by another…

I never said I'm an authority, I simply posted a link to a translation and I said I checked it. People can choose to listen to me, or not. You made up the strawman that I'm positioning myself as an authority.

My post was never supposed to be a full summary, and I never claimed that it is, so it's very strange that you attack me for not fully summarizing. Passages such as crying, feeling like a zombie, etc are already covered by western media and people have likely already read that -- me pointing out all that again does not add anything useful. The intention from the beginning is to let people read the full thing, including translation nuances, and to let them read parts that they probably haven't read yet (or not in its original form), so that people can make up their own minds. That includes reading up about crying, and more importantly, how the passage about crying was written as well as the context in which that passage appears.

I added some commentary after people asked me to comment on another translation and compare that with the first. But that commentary was secondary to the main goal, which is to let people read the original, full text and make up their own minds. Thus it is neither necessary nor a goal of that commentary to be a full analysis, and I never claimed that it was.

Why are you so obsessed with this? Why is my opinion so much more important to you than what Peng Shuai herself wrote in full? What are you afraid of? Why do you not like the fact that I let others read the original source?

I think there is only one possible answer: you have a specific opinion that you want to force on others, so you are alarmed by others being exposed to more and original information. That's some chilling 1984 thought police behavior right there.

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> Which is more than what the ostensibly anti-fascist USSR did. The funniest part is that when the USSR started the invade the other half of Poland right after Germany started, none of the allies declared war on the USSR while they had a protection treaty with Poland in the first place.

I mean, of course. The alternative was that Germany takes all of Poland and gets to be more agressive against the allies. The Soviets taking half of Poland was a massive benefit for the allies.

soviets were not part of the allies at the start of the war...

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> Europeans were quick to scorn Trump’s policies yes > China has been unfair in its trade practices yes but these doesn't have much to do with each other. It was already known before Trump that the lack of trade/investment reciprocity with China is big fucking problem. (2016 Brookings report, and Brookings is not a conservative think tank. Quite the opposite - according to conservative pundits.) Of course this concer…

> who cares if the CCP is a narcissist control freak. My first impression is that CCP and Taiwan remind me of the archetype of the unwanted suitor that never gets the message and keeps on pursuing a disinterested woman. But I think your framing CCP in psychological terms is just as if not more apt. I'm just pasting a list of symptoms of narcissism. Not all apply, but strikingly, enough symptoms do apply to CCP for a…

Successful dictators tend to be similar. They have an enormous capacity for management, exercising control (maintaining their status and position through manipulation and every means necessary), enduring unfavorable circumstances, achieving (real or fake) results. All of it usually driven by ideology and amplified to the extremes by anxiety/paranoia. Oh, and just a dash of pride, just a tiny bit more than needed to kill/destroy people who could hurt them or their dreams.
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