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How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

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Re: How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

#41

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Have you heard of Spotlight? It's the button at the upper right of your screen. It indexes all your files. If you are talking about files that belong to the UNIX underpinnings of Mac OS X: that's what locate is for, for example - try typing that into a Terminal window.

I think this only works if you know which file you are looking for. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but when I start up Finder, there's no way for me to start from the root directory. So already, I'm not sure exactly where I am. Then when I start drilling down into directories, etc, there's only one of 4 views that will give me some sort of indication where I am, but not really. I have to concatenate all the directo…

The default finder interface has an area on the left with your hard drives, and your common locations, like your home directory, your apps directory, your downloads directory, easily accessible.

I think this can be turned off, and I think that at some point you turned it off... that's the only thing I can think of because getting to the root of a drive just requires going to the left of the window and clicking on the drive... most of the time (with the default finder configuration.)

Re: How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

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Okay, and once the users have found their documents in the beautiful Finder, what are they going to do with them? This seems to be another case of someone confusing attractiveness with usability. The article fails to explain why the author thinks that the Finder makes it easier and/or more obvious for users to figure out how to manipulate their files. What are the motivations and needs of these users (apart from 'I w…

Some very common file operations are moving files and copying files. On the finder, you grab the files and drag them to the place you want them to go. Under windows, people are trained to select the files, press the copy key command, go to the new location, and press the paste key command. Microsoft, seeing that the paste function is the most used, makes the paste button bigger. The problem is, there's a much easier…

True, drag and dropping files to move/copy them is easy. If you're using a keyboard and mouse. How will you do this on a tablet?

Re: How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

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Okay, and once the users have found their documents in the beautiful Finder, what are they going to do with them? This seems to be another case of someone confusing attractiveness with usability. The article fails to explain why the author thinks that the Finder makes it easier and/or more obvious for users to figure out how to manipulate their files. What are the motivations and needs of these users (apart from 'I w…

Some very common file operations are moving files and copying files. On the finder, you grab the files and drag them to the place you want them to go. Under windows, people are trained to select the files, press the copy key command, go to the new location, and press the paste key command. Microsoft, seeing that the paste function is the most used, makes the paste button bigger. The problem is, there's a much easier…

>Microsoft is reinforcing the slower, less intuitive way of doing things.

You say this like its a bad thing. There is no "right way" to do things. Actually, there is: the most obvious/intuitive way is the right way for a particular user. If people intuitively use Copy/Paste to move files, it makes sense to make that functionality easier to get to. It does not make sense to try to "correct" their behavior in some way.

Re: How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you heard of Spotlight? It's the button at the upper right of your screen. It indexes all your files. If you are talking about files that belong to the UNIX underpinnings of Mac OS X: that's what locate is for, for example - try typing that into a Terminal window.

I think this only works if you know which file you are looking for. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but when I start up Finder, there's no way for me to start from the root directory. So already, I'm not sure exactly where I am. Then when I start drilling down into directories, etc, there's only one of 4 views that will give me some sort of indication where I am, but not really. I have to concatenate all the directo…

I think the use cases you are describing are accomplished as follows:

1. Starting at the "root" directory. You can control what the finder window initially opens with on the General pane of the Finder Preferences. By default it should be your home folder (/Users/name).

2. Tracking your location. It sounds like you're not using the Path Bar. I believe it's disabled by default. Try View -> Show Path Bar. This presents your current location (in all view types) at the bottom. It also allows for navigational "jumps" to parent locations.

If you have OS X Lion you can open your Finder location in Terminal by enabling a Service in System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts. It's called "New Terminal at Folder" or "New Terminal Tab at Folder." See this Stack Overflow answer for more details: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/420456/open-terminal-here...

Re: How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

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Actually this blog post I think is a perfect example of how "designers" in the large don't get it. The ribbon was largely maligned for Office too by the web intelligencia, but as someone who spent time in the enterprise both consulting and selling apps, the ribbon is generally loved by its users. The people who hate the ribbon are the people who use OSX. Try giving Word 2003 to anyone who has spent any time with Word…

I believe you are right, and I think one key difference at play is Donald Norman's idea of Affordances vs designers emphasis on emotional reaction. One is about making something naturally usable, and the other is about making an emotional connection. They are completely different goals applied to products.

Coke's iconic bottle is not about affordance (though it does have good affordances) it is about signally fun, enjoyment, summer, etc. Coke has literally spent billions over decades to embed that emotional reaction in the American public.

http://www.hnl.bcm.tmc.edu/cache/The%20Pepsi-Coke%20challeng...

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_45/b41070892...

Pour pepsi in a coke bottle and it 'tastes' better ...literally your brain reacts differently when examined with an MRI when you know you are drinking Coke.

Apple's goal is to provoke the same emotional reaction with respect to their design language, and has also spent (billions?) doing so in commercials, actions and design choices over the last decade plus.

No one is immune to this. I have a Mini Cooper. I love it. But it is a direct example of favoring emotion over affordance. As a specific example: There is a bank of identical dip switches just below the radio. They look cool, and fit with Mini's design language. They however have Negative affordance. The switches all feel the same ... "Am I opening a lock? Rolling down a window? Or turning on/off Dynamic Stability Control?" I don't know ... hopefully it isn't they dynamic stability control.

And everything effects emotional connection. Mini's introduction of an SUV!?! My emotional connection to my own Mini is watered down by the company attempting to expand beyond the core idea providing that emotional connection. Is that rational? ... no. But it is real. My Mini still drives like a go kart, I haven't fallen out of love with it, but the existence of a Mini SUV does make me less likely to make excuses for its real failings.

Favoring design language over affordance is the reason for the gut reaction people have when they complain that this has poor design. It is based on an emotional reaction, not on whether it works. Whether it works is entirely besides the point.

If you design for emotional connection people look past actual usability problems. They may even make up fanciful explanations of why it is better (in the face of evidence) because they like it and want it to be better anyway. When you buy something to signal something about yourself there is an emotional need to defend it.

Obviously affordance vs design is not entirely an either or proposition. It is best to have both. Sadly emotional reactions are influenced by extremes. Sacrificing usability to provide the signal of usability can be a successful strategy. Sacrificing the signal of usability to provide usability is a much more difficult proposition.

Re: How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

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Actually this blog post I think is a perfect example of how "designers" in the large don't get it. The ribbon was largely maligned for Office too by the web intelligencia, but as someone who spent time in the enterprise both consulting and selling apps, the ribbon is generally loved by its users. The people who hate the ribbon are the people who use OSX. Try giving Word 2003 to anyone who has spent any time with Word…

I agree completely. I wrote up a long comparison of the new explorer vs. finder a few days ago that came to the same conclusion.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2937738

When I fire up my MBP I see such attention to detail, such craft put into the OS, but then I'm continuously hit with how bad many of the user interface interactions are. It makes the experience very uneven.

Re: How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

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post #38
post #5

Okay, and once the users have found their documents in the beautiful Finder, what are they going to do with them? This seems to be another case of someone confusing attractiveness with usability. The article fails to explain why the author thinks that the Finder makes it easier and/or more obvious for users to figure out how to manipulate their files. What are the motivations and needs of these users (apart from 'I w…

Some very common file operations are moving files and copying files. On the finder, you grab the files and drag them to the place you want them to go. Under windows, people are trained to select the files, press the copy key command, go to the new location, and press the paste key command. Microsoft, seeing that the paste function is the most used, makes the paste button bigger. The problem is, there's a much easier…

My guess is that Microsoft's research has uncovered a couple of usability problems for new users with drag and drop.

First, there are two possible new-user intuitions about what drag and drop ought to do, and it won't always do what they expect. First, it could copy the file, and second, it could move the file. The default on Windows (and OS X, IIRC) is to copy when the source and target are two different drives, and move if it's the same drive. This is likely to produce the correct result, but it wiil not always do so. If you want one and get the other, you will be unhappy with the result.

If you have learned cut/copy/paste in an application, then you will know the difference between cut and copy, and this will help you achieve the correct result right away. I presume this is the reason for them traditionally promoting cut/copy/paste over drag and drop.

Second, drag and drop is not discoverable. Items on the a toolbar or ribbon are trivially discoverable, but new and unskilled users may not even realize that drag and drop is an option.

This is the advantage of a ribbon populated with commands. Not only are the commands preferred by infrequent explorer users (cut/copy/paste) easily accessible to them, but new users have the even more easily understood option of choosing "move to" or "copy to". Q: How do I copy this file to my flash drive? A: I select "copy to".

Re: How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

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If you look at comments Steve Jobs made at one of the All Things D, you know that Apple wants the file system and finder gone from the user experience. It believes the apps should manage this complexity for you. You can see this embodied in iPhoto and iTunes and you see it in how Pages and Numbers now work in Lion

This strikes to the heart of the article. Mentoning finder is a poor example? Finder should only be a fall back most of the files should be automatically connected to an app. It seems such an alien concept that many windows users can not grasp it even after they switch. I think the the windows mobile OS is moving in the same direction but I expect a lot of resistance to implementing it platform wide. The ultimate concern is that windows will spend all their time on marginal improvements to how things are done where they could skip all that hassle entirely like you can with the iPhone and some of the latest Mac apps.

Lion isn't there yet there is a strong argument for just using a tablet. The explorer finder and all the other expectations for what is in an OS just get in the way. Most people just want a gadget that gets things done not sometihingnthey need to root and (re)program.

Windows 3.1 had a pretty awesome file acess system for the time win 2000 nt was the best though clean search with predictable results. That is an aside if you need to extensively use search or curate your files something is suboptimal in tour apps.

Re: How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

'web intelligencia'? i think you could have made your point without a cheap us against them anti intellectualism aside.

I didn't take that as an anti-intellectualism slight. People who write tech pieces on the web, be it on blogs or tech publications, are more computer savvy than the the majority of computer users. If you don't believe this, go watch the Google on-the-street video asking people what a browser is ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ ). I was one of those power users who hated the ribbon when it was introduced i…

I think I am alone in being a "power user" and loving the ribbon. I totally buy into the design philosophy of it, and I now do things with office that I couldn't or wouldn't do before.

I think there is a bit of false transference. I program therefore I'm an expert. I can honestly say that my ability at C++ or Emacs never helped me figure out how to do anything in Office. Of course, I use it rarely enough that every time might as well be the first time.

Perhaps I'm odd in that most people make deeper use of Office more often than I do?

Re: How Microsoft misunderstands the concept of user research (& how Apple doesn’t)

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For the last time, power users can make it look like this http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communit...

There's more shortcuts than ever now. Power users need to realize that the default look should be oriented towards the normal user to make things more discoverable, since power users are the ones than can easily configure things to their liking unlike regular users.

When you're designing an interface for more than 1 billion users, you have to make a lot of trade-offs.

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