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Re: Against 3x Speed

#191

Something I noticed is a lot of people replying are focused on the playback speed, and then defending their choice of faster playback speed, all why missing 80% of the article which had nothing really to do with how fast you watch videos.

Because author chose to make it the main point of the article. And the fact that half of the article has nothing to do with the main point just shows that it's badly written.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#192

I'm impressed more by the comments than the article itself. Some people insist they make progress and listen 3x, but nobody showed any practical measurements of own skills. A personal example: I used to listen to a famous linguist, and everything seemed nice and clear, but then I decided to go in details on one particular question (I think accentuantion), and opened his book. It was like if you showed your programmin…

Are you referring to Noam Chomsky?

Re: Against 3x Speed

#193
Just last Friday I had to google how to increase YouTube speed above 2x. Found quick and dirty solution: `document.getElementsByTagName("video")[0].playbackRate = 3` in a browser console. Some people are just impossible to listen to due to their slow pace. In my case, it was possible to understand at 5x and quite comfortable at 3.5x.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#194

I'm impressed more by the comments than the article itself. Some people insist they make progress and listen 3x, but nobody showed any practical measurements of own skills. A personal example: I used to listen to a famous linguist, and everything seemed nice and clear, but then I decided to go in details on one particular question (I think accentuantion), and opened his book. It was like if you showed your programmin…

This is a core problem in education, BTW: people, regardless of age, are essentially unable to properly evaluate whether they actually learned something from e.g. a course they just completed, and what helped with these learning effects. Those after-course feedbacks mostly just reflect whether they liked the presenter and/or the group. This of course has problematic consequences if that after-course feedback is used…

It takes a huge level of maturity to know when you understand something. You have to take yourself away from how pleasant the interaction was, and ask yourself questions that are on the limit of what you think you can answer. That whole not-too-easy-or-hard balance is really difficult to nail down, especially if you have a grade depending on it. It's also hard when you have nothing but your own satisfaction depending on it, eg after you've graduated and are just reading for interest.

The entertainment aspect is hard to get away from. It's like when you watch a good documentary, you're in awe of whatever field it's about. But have you really learned much? Hard to say.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#195

I'm impressed more by the comments than the article itself. Some people insist they make progress and listen 3x, but nobody showed any practical measurements of own skills. A personal example: I used to listen to a famous linguist, and everything seemed nice and clear, but then I decided to go in details on one particular question (I think accentuantion), and opened his book. It was like if you showed your programmin…

This is a core problem in education, BTW: people, regardless of age, are essentially unable to properly evaluate whether they actually learned something from e.g. a course they just completed, and what helped with these learning effects. Those after-course feedbacks mostly just reflect whether they liked the presenter and/or the group. This of course has problematic consequences if that after-course feedback is used…

Kind of a super power of mine is that I am very good at knowing whether or not I actually know or understand something.

This made university pretty stressful: it was always on my mind how little I had yet retained and understood from my current courses; i'd only be happy when grinding material through my brain on my own (i.e. actually learning).

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#196
3x speed mistakes form for substance and wastes time besides, because podcasts are much more for fun than self-improvement.

Let's be honest with ourselves here: no one listening to a podcast is ever just listening to a podcast. You're running or driving or doing the laundry or working out or working or walking the dog, so in terms of learning it's more than anything like hypnopaedia [1], which doesn't work. You're not really engaging with the material, which in any case can only go so deep because it's a radio show and you're using it for what we've used radio shows for since radio shows were invented.

That's not to say podcasts can't also be useful in the instrumental way that 3x-ers seem to seek. If you've got a good memory or are in a position to take notes, they can provide fruitful directions for further investigation. But that's not the kind of raw data upload that 3x pretends to optimize. That's just finding places where it might be worth putting in real work, of the sort that listening to podcasts isn't.

Turn off the speed boost and give up on the idea that you can "level up" without doing the work - hell, even in the video games from which that metaphor is drawn, you have to grind for XP or at least progress the story. So get to work! Progress your own story. And listen to podcasts, if you want to, for the fun of it. Believe it or not, that's allowed too.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep-learning

Re: Against 3x Speed

#197
post #174

I'm impressed more by the comments than the article itself. Some people insist they make progress and listen 3x, but nobody showed any practical measurements of own skills. A personal example: I used to listen to a famous linguist, and everything seemed nice and clear, but then I decided to go in details on one particular question (I think accentuantion), and opened his book. It was like if you showed your programmin…

> Lectures are proved to be a bad way to learn things. This may be, but studies also show that you should review the material before the lecture so that you can engage the lecturer . I can count on a single hand and not use all the fingers the number of students I have taught who always reviewed the material before I lectured on it. Unsurprisingly, those students absolutely sailed through my class with very high grad…

I always thought lectures aren't for teaching, they are basically just some more detail on the syllabus. Basically it's the prof saying "you need to know this proof, I'll skim over it fast and you can figure it out in your own time".

Re: Against 3x Speed

#198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but I can't exactly build a reactor, a SARS variant, or the holocene.

The first two are probably possible if legally dubious.

Yeah it's not the same trial-and-error as, say, making a basic Rails web app.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#199

3x speed mistakes form for substance and wastes time besides, because podcasts are much more for fun than self-improvement. Let's be honest with ourselves here: no one listening to a podcast is ever just listening to a podcast. You're running or driving or doing the laundry or working out or working or walking the dog, so in terms of learning it's more than anything like hypnopaedia [1], which doesn't work. You're no…

I never understood why I never listened to podcasts. But you explained it to me - I hate doing two things at once, because it means I do them both badly.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#200
post #192

I'm impressed more by the comments than the article itself. Some people insist they make progress and listen 3x, but nobody showed any practical measurements of own skills. A personal example: I used to listen to a famous linguist, and everything seemed nice and clear, but then I decided to go in details on one particular question (I think accentuantion), and opened his book. It was like if you showed your programmin…

Are you referring to Noam Chomsky?

Unlikely, his specialty is syntax rather than phonology
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