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Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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It's baffling how Apple on the one hand claims that user privacy is the most important thing to them, but on the other hand they built an anonymous tracking network that can be abused for many nefarious purposes, and everyone who has an iPhone was made a part of the network whether they like it or not.

There are so many things that are questionable about Airtags. Another way to abuse it would be for example, you could place an Airtag somewhere on an iPhone users driveway, and use it to determine when they arrive home by checking for pings. The victim won't even see a notification, since the Airtag is stationary.

Preventing attacks like this would require the victim to know where to opt-out of Apple's tracking network, a setting that Apple hid by giving it a confusing name ("Network & Wireless") and shows a warning that your phone won't work properly anymore if you try to turn it off.

(Also, turning that setting off presumably also turns off the Airtag warning? So you are trading one risk against another?)

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#132

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Yes, ~~but~~ and the fact that some police departments are broken doesn't mean we need to propagate learned helplessness about all police departments.

I think we are in agreement. Did you mean “and” instead of “but”?

yep

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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post #106

As someone who has been around message boards and forums since the late 90’s one thing that has really surprised me is the degree to which people have started taking first person online stories seriously. Reddit of course is full of them, as is Twitter and lots of other places. Meanwhile the incentives to successfully tell a just-so story that goes viral have never been higher. Youtube money, GoFundme, influencer opp…

While the story is of course possible, there are sufficient red flags I'm inclined to think it's not likely.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#134

So I and my wife both have AirTags. Every time we take a walk together, we both get notifications that there's an unknown AirTag with us (each others'). You can pause these notifications for just one day, which means we get notified every single day. Does anyone know how to disable this for specific known AirTags?

Are your Apple accounts in a Family Sharing group? I have no idea if that would affect this feature, but my wife and I also have AirTags on our keys and we travel together plenty and have never received this notification.

Same. I just wish you could transfer ownership of a tag between family members.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#135

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It is indeed an impression problem. Doing this with LoRa for a lower price has been possible for a very long time and you don't even need a large network for that due to the significant range. Basic triangulation built in to friendly software using existing radios and then simply getting closer with a hand-held transceiver isn't exactly hardcore hacking either. And with the low entry cost and non-detectability by pra…

AirTags are trivial to use and have an extensive tracking network in the form of every iDevice. Custom or semi-custom battery powered LoRa trackers have lesser batteryluve, are bulkier and much harder to get and deploy. Basic triangulation is easy-ish, but requires multiple sites or a moving site to work toany degree. And those sites need to hear the tracking beacon.

Go on Amazon and search for 4g gps tracker. Cheap, small, easy, cellular connected gps units with no way for anyone to detect them, unlike an AirTag.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#136

So I and my wife both have AirTags. Every time we take a walk together, we both get notifications that there's an unknown AirTag with us (each others'). You can pause these notifications for just one day, which means we get notified every single day. Does anyone know how to disable this for specific known AirTags?

I keep getting these notifications for my own AirTags.

I know they’re mine because the notification shows the last four digits of my own phone number.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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You don't see how creepy + children = danger?

I think they do. It's more, which should you fear more: your bath tub or someone rampaging in the street with a knife? The statistics say you should be far more afraid of your bath tub, there is a decent chance it will be your cause of death. The 'stranger' in the street is about as likely as lottery odds. So when it comes to children, abuse at home is several (if not many) magnitudes more likely than a stranger tryi…

you can care about vectors of harm that are not highly ranked....

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#138

So I and my wife both have AirTags. Every time we take a walk together, we both get notifications that there's an unknown AirTag with us (each others'). You can pause these notifications for just one day, which means we get notified every single day. Does anyone know how to disable this for specific known AirTags?

I am given the choice what I want to do, and chose the "always ignore this AirTag" option.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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The danger is that predators could track a child to a secluded area and abduct them.

The vast majority of abductions of children are by family. Same with other crimes against children. People they know are far more dangerous than people they don’t. The predators aren’t hiding in the bushes, they are already in the house.

my kids are more likely to die choking on a hotdog than shooting themselves with an AR15, which is why I encourage them to play with guns
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