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Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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So what is your suggestion, just let bad situations happen to you? Regardless of if the police actually do anything, it's important to have a paper trail of things so that you point to them if you ever have to end up in court.

Not the OP and not advocating to not go to the police, but I'd be shocked if they were of any use at all.

The paper trail is useful.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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it might have been law enforcement. they might be using this to track potential drunk drivers (i am not saying you were drunk driving or anything) but i do know there was a few articles on it this year, here is one i found

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/07/19/police-find-unexpected-...

or it could be worse and you could have a unhinged stalker on your hands. both are intrusive.

but it’s hard to say, is there a way to find out the owner or look at log files to see what op or which provider is accessing the location details of a tag? i know about these tags but i’ve never used one before so understanding is fairly fresh

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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I do, and this is an appropriate situation to call them about, regardless of your race. There are problems with the police, to be sure, but this is not a situation where someone is getting beaten up (or worse) over a traffic stop or misidentification during the commission of a crime.

Cops have been known to push stalking, domestic violence, rape and similar cases under the carpet or, even worse, abuse the contact information from the criminal complaint to stalk the victims themselves (see [1], [2] or whatever turns up at Google for "police officers stalking women"). Not to mention the organized denials of service that regularly crop up as "backlog of rape kits discovered" headlines. Women have al…

Is this the rule or the exception? No doubt there are reported failures, but is that the average experience for a reporter (even accounting for race, gender, etc.) of a stalking or other similar personal security concern? Stories such as these are useful for motivating the public and our government to fix the problems, but they have a side effect of discouraging people from taking useful action where it would not be harmful.

We should be giving our most helpful advice here; let’s not make people panic unnecessarily.

The fact of the matter is that Apple will only provide the identities of AirTags owners to law enforcement officers in the course of legitimate investigation work; in the interest of privacy, they won’t give them out to just anyone who asks. So if you want to get help, getting LE assistance is practically the only way to go.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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I do, and this is an appropriate situation to call them about, regardless of your race. There are problems with the police, to be sure, but this is not a situation where someone is getting beaten up (or worse) over a traffic stop or misidentification during the commission of a crime.

Yes, ~~but~~ and the fact that some police departments are broken doesn't mean we need to propagate learned helplessness about all police departments.

I think we are in agreement. Did you mean “and” instead of “but”?

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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I see the creepy potential. I don't see the danger.

You don't see how creepy + children = danger?

I think they do. It's more, which should you fear more: your bath tub or someone rampaging in the street with a knife? The statistics say you should be far more afraid of your bath tub, there is a decent chance it will be your cause of death. The 'stranger' in the street is about as likely as lottery odds.

So when it comes to children, abuse at home is several (if not many) magnitudes more likely than a stranger trying to track and abduct your children.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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I’m not convinced this is a priority for police. Air tags seem to be a net negative for all.

Please don't discourage people from seeking assistance from law enforcement when their personal safety is at risk.

You’re making a big assumption about me. I simply said I’m not convinced this is a priority for police. Prove me wrong!

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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The worst part of this is, if you don’t have an iPhone, you’ll never know if you’re being tracked. Edit: Yes, I know there’s an app. Do you think more than 1% of victims will have it installed?

Not true, no app is necessary. The AirTag will start beeping once it's been separated from its owner for longer than 8-24 hours.

That's going to be hard to hear when driving on the highway, also, the seems like a long time if someone is following you home from a bar.

I don't think there's any good way for Apple to fix this. On the other hand, it's been possible to do something similar for a long time, just not this easy, and at this price point. You could suggest that the AirTag disable tracking if it move along with the same phone for more than 15mins, but that's would mean you could steal anything with an AirTag and just keep moving for that period of time.

The Android app also isn't helpful, because many don't know that they need to install it, nor should they have to. Nor does it help say elderly people with no smartphone.

It's a product where Apple really didn't consider the real world implications. It's a neat device, and I'm sure it's well intended, but it's not fit for the world we're currently living in.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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Please don't discourage people from seeking assistance from law enforcement when their personal safety is at risk.

You’re making a big assumption about me. I simply said I’m not convinced this is a priority for police. Prove me wrong!

I’m not making an assumption about you. I am saying that that is how statements such as yours can be (and often are) interpreted.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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I’m not convinced this is a priority for police. Air tags seem to be a net negative for all.

A ... a net negative? Okay, like maybe I get that some people abuse this thing and maybe that's bad and maybe ten extra people got their car stolen this year or something although even that is questionable given that Tile already existed. But net negative? All the utility from all the people that found all the things they found this year with AirTags is counteracted, is wiped away by... what?

You can always buy more stuff. Lowering the bar for stalking seems like a bad trade off, doesn’t it?
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