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Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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The worst part of this is, if you don’t have an iPhone, you’ll never know if you’re being tracked. Edit: Yes, I know there’s an app. Do you think more than 1% of victims will have it installed?

how do I see airtags around me with my iphone? on "find my" I just see my own apple stuff.

You can't. You only get an alert after one's been following you around.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#82
So I and my wife both have AirTags. Every time we take a walk together, we both get notifications that there's an unknown AirTag with us (each others'). You can pause these notifications for just one day, which means we get notified every single day.

Does anyone know how to disable this for specific known AirTags?

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#83

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I believe that's where the advice to hand an AirTag to the authorities come from? From here: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT212227

I’m not convinced this is a priority for police. Air tags seem to be a net negative for all.

A ... a net negative? Okay, like maybe I get that some people abuse this thing and maybe that's bad and maybe ten extra people got their car stolen this year or something although even that is questionable given that Tile already existed. But net negative? All the utility from all the people that found all the things they found this year with AirTags is counteracted, is wiped away by... what?

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#84

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You may not live in a large American city. It’s a bad place to rely on the cops in my experience.

I do, and this is an appropriate situation to call them about, regardless of your race. There are problems with the police, to be sure, but this is not a situation where someone is getting beaten up (or worse) over a traffic stop or misidentification during the commission of a crime.

Cops have been known to push stalking, domestic violence, rape and similar cases under the carpet or, even worse, abuse the contact information from the criminal complaint to stalk the victims themselves (see [1], [2] or whatever turns up at Google for "police officers stalking women"). Not to mention the organized denials of service that regularly crop up as "backlog of rape kits discovered" headlines.

Women have all kinds of valid reasons to stay as far away from cops as they can, women of color, queer/nb/trans women even more.

Some PDs have changed procedures and established special, often female-led, teams to deal with cases involving such sensitive scenarios... but they're not many to begin with.

[1]: https://psmag.com/news/stalker-cop-police-protection-danger-...

[2]: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/oct/20/my-frie...

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#85

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how do I see airtags around me with my iphone? on "find my" I just see my own apple stuff.

iPhone will send an alert to you if unknown AirTag is following you around.

then I don't see how this is a problem having someone else's airtag on the car. the owner of the car is the only person being "followed" by it.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#86
This is news just because it's an Apple device being used for something that was already trivially possible.

GPS trackers designed to be magnet-attached to a car which report their location via cell signal cost ~$20 on Amazon. You then tend to need to pay for either a SIM card or a subscription to the device maker's service -- bringing you up to about the cost of an AirTag. These are much harder to detect, as you might imagine.

The Apple device does try to make itself less useful for abusive purposes. Nearby iPhones will notify you if there's an AirTag following you. Apple released an Android app to scan for them (manually -- it'd probably be nice if they released something that did the same passive scanning as iPhones get, but there's battery trade-offs there, and obviously most people won't have that app). AirTags will also beep if they're separated from their owner.

In fact, this is news we're hearing about because of the steps Apple took to make it harder to use these devices for bad purposes. The tweet author got a warning about the device following them.

It's tricky to make something that lets you find where you dropped your keys while walking the dog that can't also be used for nefarious purposes.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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which currently has a rating of 2/5 because of how terrible it is.

Did you read the reviews ? Maybe because the bad guys do not want you to use it. You need to underestand that there are a lot of people paid to have an opinion on the internet.

Some of the (dumb) reviews don't change the fact that Apple's app requires you to perform manual scans and doesn't alert you if you're being tracked. Only iPhones do that.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#88
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According to the tweet thread: >this morning while I was asleep I had someone close to me check my car and they found it stuck on the underside of my front passenger wheel well. I wish he took pics before he threw it away If I found a tracking device on the car of someone close to me, I certainly wouldn't throw it away without showing them and insisting that they go to the police. Why would they just throw it away?

Because it never happened.

I'm trying really hard not to come to this conclusion, but the tweet thread doesn't make any sense.

>I didn’t wanna go home, so I spent the night somewhere and just said I’d figure it out in the morning.

So they stayed somewhere and said they would figure it out in the morning. Ok, that's reasonable.

>this morning while I was asleep I had someone close to me check my car

How did they tell someone to search the car while they were asleep? They said they would figure it out "in the morning" when they were awake. Some time between deciding to figure it out in the morning and waking up, they told someone to search their car?

If it didn't happen, being asleep while someone searched your car would be the reason why they threw the device away without your permission. If you were awake when they threw it away, that would be a lot more difficult to believe.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#89
Are people against the idea of GPS trackers?

Lightbug uses GPS and has a 6 year battery with a size smaller than a credit card. Ultimately there's no way to put the cat in the bag.

I'd argue it's not possible for a tracker to exist that cannot be used for bad purposes.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#90

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You may not live in a large American city. It’s a bad place to rely on the cops in my experience.

I do, and this is an appropriate situation to call them about, regardless of your race. There are problems with the police, to be sure, but this is not a situation where someone is getting beaten up (or worse) over a traffic stop or misidentification during the commission of a crime.

Yes, ~~but~~ and the fact that some police departments are broken doesn't mean we need to propagate learned helplessness about all police departments.
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