YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute

Post by humanistbot » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 6:26 PM UTC

gausswho wrote: post #146

phil21 wrote: post #109

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Thing is I would be delighted the the opposite. I'd love to only pay for ESPN and the other sports channels only for $15/mo. Maybe add in CNN/FOX/MSNBC/Etc. for the wife to have on in the background, but plenty of ways to get that otherwise cheaply. OTA works fine for local news, even if the apps are a bit buggy if you want anything DVR or digitally distributed. As would likely most I believe. Thus sports propping up…

ESPN will be the last to offer their own subscription, because then people would know how much they are getting away with in broadcast programming. YouTube is almost certainly paying more. Decades of strongarming TV networks has allowed Disney/ESPN to soak up 40%-60% of traditional cable bills at the expense of all other content owners. YT is taking a gamble that backed by the weight of Alphabet they can end this cor…

Post by supertrope » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 6:29 PM UTC

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adamcstephens wrote: post #40

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Is it really much better to have five $15 services to get the same content?

You still don't get it. I want the "channel" format of media (programmed video content aka broadcast programming) to die. Whether it's accessed by paying comcast to watch it over a settop box or paying google to watch it through a browser or app makes no difference to me, it's the same format of content and I want to see it die. And it has been dying. Look at the ads the roll between the shows and it's clear that TV…

Post by sixothree » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 6:32 PM UTC

saltminer wrote: post #147

dreyfan wrote: post #108

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Hulu + LiveTV is $65 and Sling is about $50 and Youtube TV $65. These aren’t really comparable to standard Hulu or Netflix or Amazon Prime etc. It’s for people that want to pretend they’re cord-cutting while buying the exact same thing from a streaming company.

> It’s for people that want to pretend they’re cord-cutting while buying the exact same thing from a streaming company. It legitimately is way better than cable, though. Ignoring the disputes over fees, I once tried Spectrum's TV Android app (probably 3-4 years ago, I gave up on getting it to work), and this is what I experienced: * Refuses to work if a VPN is on * Must disable developer tools (doesn't matter if you…

Post by ghaff » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

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Also https://www.xumo.tv . And a lot of people forget, there is OTA TV too. In the days of streaming everything media, there are still OTA sources just in case. Especially during a power outage, where AM/FM and broadcast TV still work to receive info.

It's less about forgetfulness and more about convenience. The whole "setup an OTA antenna somewhere in/on your house/attic/roof, wire it up to your tuner, scan for channels, learn what direction to point the antenna for which stations, find a DVR that supports OTA", vs load an app, sign in and boom. I'm a geek so, I'd LOVE to take this step. Unfortunately, I live in the part of the country that has too many mountains…

Post by CryptoBanker » Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 6:39 PM UTC

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #148

heartbreak wrote: post #110

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Not only did they drop the price, but in the email they referred subscribers to the Disney+ package that includes Hulu and ESPN.

That's actually the reason for the price drop: They are giving you money to get Disney+ so you don't just cancel your YouTube TV subscription and go elsewhere. It's a retention move that they accept a short lack of their cut of the Disney portion in exchange for not losing customers entirely.