> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?
All wild animals are stronger than they look. Humans are comparatively weak.. most of us can’t fight a deer. Monkeys are intelligent. They are aware of leverage and potential danger. They jump on people, chase, scratch and bite them
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#143I'm not sure if monkeys experience revenge the way humans do. As one of the comments mentioned in the article, it's probably just a survival instinct.
Most animals are capable of revenge. Story: A family in Palestine were doing a routine cleaning of the house. They had a snake nest in the house and it was no pet snake. So to clean better they put the nest and eggs in a different corner. The snake came back looking for the nest and could not find it. It looked around with no luck. It went to the family water vase (because there was no piped water supply) and spit in…
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#144Great... Now even the monkeys have a functioning justice system and we don't.
How is that a functioning justice system?
Maybe this comment seems alarmist but I'm trying to help. Read it with an open mind and a grain of salt. Better be alarmist than sorry.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Chimp muscles are stronger than ours but we are often stronger than them in absolute terms because we are bigger (more muscle mass).
We are not stronger than chimps. Our arms certainly aren't.
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#146This site really has become india central. Holy shit.
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#147> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?
If the monkeys start pushing people off buildings that seems like an escalation? If war breaks out between the monkeys and the humans - I’d think we’d have a decisive advantage?
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#148> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?
If they attack from behind they can easily knock down an adult human. They use this tactic to attack motorcycle delivery drivers quite often and steal food. They would have no trouble nabbing a child.
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#149I'm not sure if monkeys experience revenge the way humans do. As one of the comments mentioned in the article, it's probably just a survival instinct.
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#150I'm not sure if monkeys experience revenge the way humans do. As one of the comments mentioned in the article, it's probably just a survival instinct.
How would humans experience revenge differently? What makes you think revenge isn’t an instinct in humans? I recall reading (the book escapes me), that just about all animals employ a Tit-for-Tat mechanism for dealing with other animals of the same species that cheat. Revenge is a very useful social tool, especially against other species threatening their offspring.
An instinct is something you have no choice over, it's automatic.
Humans very clearly have a choice as to whether they pursue revenge or not. If someone wrongs me in a given way, I can choose how to respond, or to not respond at all; and I can spend as much time as I like (decades if I choose to) pondering on that. It's doubtful these monkeys function quite at that level.
It's unknown whether, for example, these monkeys have any choice in the matter. Their programming may be purely instinctual when it comes to a revenge response.