Great... Now even the monkeys have a functioning justice system and we don't.
Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
41–50 of 323 posts
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#42I'm not sure if monkeys experience revenge the way humans do. As one of the comments mentioned in the article, it's probably just a survival instinct.
How would humans experience revenge differently? What makes you think revenge isn’t an instinct in humans?
I recall reading (the book escapes me), that just about all animals employ a Tit-for-Tat mechanism for dealing with other animals of the same species that cheat.
Revenge is a very useful social tool, especially against other species threatening their offspring.
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#43> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?
if a monkey tries to hurt my dogs, i will fight to death for them. mentally they are my children.
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#44Why are people surprised and shocked by this? If a pack of stray dogs killed a human child, we would exterminate them without further thought, and we would call it "animal control." Even when an otherwise protected species like a bear in a national park kills a human, we make an exception and kill that animal.
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#45This sounds just like human behavior of retribution in the mob and street gangs. Or even Twitter. Fascinating.
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have You ever tried to pull Yourself up to the top of a tree with 1 arm in 30 seconds?
Chimp muscles are stronger than ours but we are often stronger than them in absolute terms because we are bigger (more muscle mass).
We are not stronger than chimps. Our arms certainly aren't.
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#47I’d like to see these Monkeys try and capture my 54kg (129lb) Doberman. He is ridiculously strong, has broken a few collars and is impossible to move if he decides to stay put.
Sorry buddy, but a troop of larger monkeys would tear any dog to shreds -- doesn't matter the breed or size. They're fast, strong, agile, and smart.
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#48I’d like to see these Monkeys try and capture my 54kg (129lb) Doberman. He is ridiculously strong, has broken a few collars and is impossible to move if he decides to stay put.
I hope the dog is stronger than these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAWy9DqsnU0
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#49Philosophical question, assuming kt's not a fake news: are those monkeys "evil"? If they revenge is agains siblings of the aggressor or just dogs in general, I would say so. Looks like they are intelligent enough to be evil.
> evil > profoundly immoral and wicked. I think the concept that animal can be moral / immoral is already a philosophical subject. See the book "Can Animals Be Moral?" for reference. And in order to say that these monkeys are evil, you must first prove that they can be moral.
Which is to say they know right from wrong.
I doubt it
"Law of the jungle" and all that
Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Chimp muscles are stronger than ours but we are often stronger than them in absolute terms because we are bigger (more muscle mass).
We are not stronger, we have more stamina. There is a difference
We both are stronger and have more stamina than macaques. The biggest male adult macaques are 18kg. That’s probably more that the average adult can raise with one arm but not by much and I insist on average. That’s nothing exceptional for someone in shape.
Considering the weight and power in a human leg, a swift kick would seriously harm and probably kill an average macaque. The issue is not strength here.