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FWIW at least at the company I work this gives women an advantage. I get a nice bonus for anyone I recruit but recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI.
We have quotas we need to fill. Hiring a white male is basically a nonstarter without prostrating yourself before HR
I honestly feel a bit sick about all this. Maybe it's the only way, but it doesn't feel like it is from my perspective.
> The model had learned through historical hiring data that men were more likely to be hired, and therefore rated male resumes higher than female resumes. A lot of machine learning sounds like the computers are just cargo-culting. But this concrete example is spectacularly so.
Well, it's not the computers faults that the people designing the system failed to (and probably are completely unable to) provide a proper measure of "value once hired". In the absence of a signal to tell you that you're stuck looking for proxies, and that it then ends up doing the same as many humans and assume that "past success at getting hired" is a good proxy for "value once hired" is not very surprising. The m…
I'm also sure a woman has a far better chance of being hired into tech than a man with the same qualifications.
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We have quotas we need to fill. Hiring a white male is basically a nonstarter without prostrating yourself before HR
This reads to me as it's okay to discriminate as long as it's for the "right group". I honestly feel a bit sick about all this. Maybe it's the only way, but it doesn't feel like it is from my perspective.
FWIW at least at the company I work this gives women an advantage. I get a nice bonus for anyone I recruit but recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI.
We have quotas we need to fill. Hiring a white male is basically a nonstarter without prostrating yourself before HR
You're saying your company won't hire white males without extenuating circumstances?
I'd love to see the incredibly diverse teams there then... or is this a case of your company used to not hire non-whites and now they're trying to play catch up so they can beat a drum about DNI, meanwhile the culture that lead to a lack of diversity marches on internally?
FWIW at least at the company I work this gives women an advantage. I get a nice bonus for anyone I recruit but recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI.
recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI. That explains why my manager was looking specifically for female candidates
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Well, it's not the computers faults that the people designing the system failed to (and probably are completely unable to) provide a proper measure of "value once hired". In the absence of a signal to tell you that you're stuck looking for proxies, and that it then ends up doing the same as many humans and assume that "past success at getting hired" is a good proxy for "value once hired" is not very surprising. The m…
If one gender really did provide more 'value once hired', would it be reasonable for the AI to favour them?
The entire premise of the research relies on the fact that the resume samples were well matched: in other words, the quality of male candidates was equal to that of female counterparts. In the paper, it says
Specifically, we perform 1-1 matching without replacement such that for each male resume, we find a female resume that is within 2 years of experience, has the same degree, field of study, and has a resume similarity score (i.e. cosine similarity of resume vector representations) of at least 0.7.
It would be interesting to see descriptive analytics on male and female applicants. IIRC men and women have differences in self-selection for precisely things like this. It is plausible (or even probable) that such difference in self-selection crept into the dataset despite the research's resume matching process.
(As a clarification, this is a critique on the research methodology, and I am not claiming one gender is less qualified than the other in general.)
Why is that such a big problem for leftists that men and women have slightly different ways of expressing themselves; behaving; interacting socially, etc... ?
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Lower your attentiveness and surrender your thinking.
We will erase your biological and individual distinctiveness to conform our own.
Your culture will adapt to service us.
You will be undifferentiated.
Resistance is futile."