Automation should be removed from the hiring process.
Job Applicant Resumes Are Effectively Impossible to De-Gender
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#12FWIW at least at the company I work this gives women an advantage. I get a nice bonus for anyone I recruit but recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI.
That's literally the worst.
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#13> The model had learned through historical hiring data that men were more likely to be hired, and therefore rated male resumes higher than female resumes. A lot of machine learning sounds like the computers are just cargo-culting. But this concrete example is spectacularly so.
> A lot of machine learning sounds like the computers are just cargo-culting.
That's precisely what ML is. Though to be fair, interviewing done by real humans is also largely based on cargo culting.
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#14Automation should be removed from the hiring process.
But to which level? Basic automation, i.e. sorting by proficency is not really done better by a human than machine. The problem doesn't lie in automation but how we apply it. Don't blame the tool, blame the user.
I think there is a lot of room for removing overautomation and creating transparency. Though just outright abandoning automation would hurt even more since human routines are even harder to evaluate/ make transparent.
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#15FWIW at least at the company I work this gives women an advantage. I get a nice bonus for anyone I recruit but recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI.
That's literally the worst.
No, compared to what I hear from other places there is no hate against men compared to what sometimes get described here; it is just that women are preferred and get slightly higher pay on average if my contacts in management are to be believed, but keeping women on board is a priority and also they pay us men very fairly.
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#16FWIW at least at the company I work this gives women an advantage. I get a nice bonus for anyone I recruit but recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI.
We have quotas we need to fill. Hiring a white male is basically a nonstarter without prostrating yourself before HR
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#17Why is that such a big problem for leftists that men and women have slightly different ways of expressing themselves; behaving; interacting socially, etc... ?
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#18FWIW at least at the company I work this gives women an advantage. I get a nice bonus for anyone I recruit but recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI.
We have quotas we need to fill. Hiring a white male is basically a nonstarter without prostrating yourself before HR
We happily take anyone qualified and I get my bonus. But as mentioned, percentage of female employees is a KPI and it makes my boss looks good and it makes the CEO happy in all hands meetings.
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#19But you are not trying to de-gender it for AI’s right? It’s humans that still have to distinguish.
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#20FWIW at least at the company I work this gives women an advantage. I get a nice bonus for anyone I recruit but recruiting a woman also increases my managers KPI.
We have quotas we need to fill. Hiring a white male is basically a nonstarter without prostrating yourself before HR
>Hiring a white male is basically a nonstarter without prostrating yourself before HR
I struggle to believe what I'm reading.
I'm just curious what people of future will think about this.