Take it slow Google. You’ll have to redo it anyways once Apple announces theirs.
Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system
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#92Whenever I transpose my comments to HN, I usually do some light editing. The following comment is unedited because this headline kinda fired me up. Considering how Google’s treated AR and VR in the last 10 years, hyping people up then quietly pulling back support and finally cancellation after just 2-3 years, I don’t see this going well. They had a toehold 6-10 years ago which they could have easily kept iterating on…
Glass was not AR. It was a tiny screen you had to shift your focus to. I should change my usernames to glasswasnotar because I feel like I am always saying that when people talk about glass and ar
I disagree. It was and is an AR product.
Re-watch this early promo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErpNpR3XYUw
There are several clear AR features displayed. There's a location based notification about the subway service upon getting close to the entrance. There's overlaid compass based walking directions. There's GPS based location identification and check-in. AR is more than just computer vision driven overlays. Though that tech wasn't available to be put in a HMD at the time, these GPS driven features absolutely were AR features and the original Glass should rightfully be considered the first AR consumer product.
Furthermore, the product still exists as the Enterprise Edition 2 and this current version supports computer vison and object identification applications, further strengthening its AR use cases.
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#93Similar to other commenters, I came here in anger. Google has fucked it’s users, it’s developers, and the broader ecosystem with its handling of AR. Google’s engineers should be embarrassed, and the executive teams who suddenly are pretending to ‘get it’ should be embarrassed. ARKit (iOS) works. It works well. They’ve built the groundwork by pushing out LiDAR. They’ve continued to advance the SDK. Key capabilities, l…
> They’ve built the groundwork by pushing out LiDAR.
I'm convinced the LiDAR on phones is apple's big beta test of lidar on AR Glasses - to potentially avoid adding a camera and the related controversy associated with it.
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#94Isn't it all similar to Microsoft's efforts in mobile devices? I mean gates tried really hard to create a windows on a mobile device. Nokia and co tried by the way as well. Then came apple from nowhere with the first iphone.
I bet something like this happens again, so I don't think it will be facebook, google, or apple. Ok maybe apple. But I would rather bet a good working device will come unexpected and will make a huge impact - like the iphone did.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
I totally agree but VR from an advertiser that's about as moral as a cigarette company seems to be doing ok and a market leader.
Facebook didn't make oculus, they bought it. So far their main contributions have been to require a Facebook account, and halt development on the next generation flagship PC headset in favor of budget android based VR. IMO racing to the bottom on price when the products still have FOV issues and low frame rates is a huge misstep. It doesn't matter how compelling Facebook's metaverse platform is if the hardware sucks.
> in favor of budget android based VR.
But it can still work with a host PC and it has a higher res screen so whats wrong with it?
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#96Will that be Google's 68th Operating System or 69th I forget how many they are up to now. /s
God.. why another OS.. jeez... it feels like even google isn't immune to chesterton's fence..
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> I wouldn’t too much about the big American advertisement companies getting a lead on it, considering how little they are trusted outside the US Given how much Apple is leaning on healthcare, they might actually be able to break into this market if they ever release their own glasses.
Are they breaking into healthcare in Europe?
I don't know how spread it is, but it has some presence in the UK it seems
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#98It seems that Google is hiring engineers so that they will be ready when Apple launches the AR/VR device. Within one year after the Apple launch, Google has copied and launched their own version. It won't run as smoothly, but it's cheaper. So, anyone who can't afford to buy the Apple product will buy the Google product. And this is how the duopoly will live forever..
Overly optimistic. Google can't even copy successful products anymore. See smartwatches.
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I totally agree but VR from an advertiser that's about as moral as a cigarette company seems to be doing ok and a market leader.
Facebook didn't make oculus, they bought it. So far their main contributions have been to require a Facebook account, and halt development on the next generation flagship PC headset in favor of budget android based VR. IMO racing to the bottom on price when the products still have FOV issues and low frame rates is a huge misstep. It doesn't matter how compelling Facebook's metaverse platform is if the hardware sucks.
Go and Quest the standalone headsets that don't require a PC were developed after getting bought by Facebook.
Quest 2 is 120hz screen same as Index. And due to slightly smaller FOV a higher resolution than Index.
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Glass was not AR. It was a tiny screen you had to shift your focus to. I should change my usernames to glasswasnotar because I feel like I am always saying that when people talk about glass and ar
I disagree. It was and is an AR product. Re-watch this early promo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErpNpR3XYUw There are several clear AR features displayed. There's a location based notification about the subway service upon getting close to the entrance. There's overlaid compass based walking directions. There's GPS based location identification and check-in. AR is more than just computer vision driven overl…
Sure if the experience of using it had been anything like that video it would have been AR, but it was not like that. I’m sure they wanted AR glasses but instead they built a tiny screen you could look at when you weren’t looking at what was around you… kinda like a phone that you didn’t have to hold.