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The Matrix Is Unreal

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leshow wrote: post #209
shock-value wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO 4k/60fps as a goal is overrated. 3k upscaled to 4k using a newer generation upscaler is not going to look much worse than native 4k, especially when viewed on a TV at a typical distance from one's couch. And 60fps, while crucial in some genres, is not altogether that important in others (particularly narrative-focused single-player titles, for which Unreal Engine is often used especially among non-major publisher…

I'm not trying to crap on upsampling, it's going to be critical to get decent fidelity in modern games. I think you're wrong about frame rate though. I find 30fps unplayable. Also, people have had a taste for it. They have been playing 60fps titles since launch on the next gen consoles, it makes the frame rate all the more strange when you play something running at half that. Not sure what you are talking about with…

At least some iterations of Gears of War do run at 30fps.

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Post by nitrogen »

leshow wrote: post #209
shock-value wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO 4k/60fps as a goal is overrated. 3k upscaled to 4k using a newer generation upscaler is not going to look much worse than native 4k, especially when viewed on a TV at a typical distance from one's couch. And 60fps, while crucial in some genres, is not altogether that important in others (particularly narrative-focused single-player titles, for which Unreal Engine is often used especially among non-major publisher…

I'm not trying to crap on upsampling, it's going to be critical to get decent fidelity in modern games. I think you're wrong about frame rate though. I find 30fps unplayable. Also, people have had a taste for it. They have been playing 60fps titles since launch on the next gen consoles, it makes the frame rate all the more strange when you play something running at half that. Not sure what you are talking about with…

I'm sure the folks at unreal don't want people to think "the engine isn't for shooters".

Especially considering the engine originated from shooters -- Unreal and Unreal Tournament.

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Post by ThalesX »

DaedPsyker wrote: post #222

I think what I would like to note is the appropriateness in Unreal demonstrating this with Matrix. An engine and an film from the same era (if I remember, the the first full release of the engine was the year before the film). For the technology itself, it is incredibly impressive but more than anything and something which is hard to demonstrate with a demo, is how easy it is to actually use. Nanite models are simple…

I believe the current CTO of Epic Games was in charge of bullet time for the first Matrix.

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Post by h0l0cube »

ses1984 wrote: post #230
wongarsu wrote: post #203

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CPU and GPU are good at different tasks, but transferring any amount of data across the PCI bus is pretty expensive, forcing you to use both in a suboptimal way. If you have fast enough data transfer between them then you can do SIMD-like tasks much faster on the GPU, while doing a lot of tasks that naturally involve branching faster on the CPU, using whichever processor is faster and has spare capacity instead of wh…

Ok but in practice what can you do on console that you can’t do on pc?

I mean you could run a database or a spreadsheet on a console, but it wouldn't be a good fit. The benefits of a console are the price-to-performance ratio for gaming applications, whereas the trade-offs on PCs are geared toward general purpose computing and browser speed. And as I've explained a few times in other threads, SoC and UMA architectures permit certain types of processing (such as destructible/deformable environments) to become feasibly performant. Ultimately a console process everything as a PC can, and vice versa, it's just consoles are more performance tuned for gaming, and the other has to cater for the lowest common denominator.

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Post by pxc »

jerf wrote: post #223
pxc wrote: post #97

Does anyone else kinda feel like videogames look good enough at this point? This demo looks fantastic, but I don't think many visual improvements beyond it seem super exciting to me. I'll take them when they come, of course, and I'm sure that realistic 3D worlds in videogames will continue to look better and better as time goes on. But I dunno. I hope advances in videogame engines do more than just help the biggest A…

That was actually my first reaction when I saw this video. The graphics are incredible, sure. The people don't entirely escape uncanny valley, but they partially do, and everything else looks awesome. No question. Then we get to the game portion of the demo, and... it's a half-step above a quicktime event. Now, look, yes, I get it, this isn't actually a game, and the game is an afterthought and not the main point. (B…

> Then we get to the game portion of the demo, and... it's a half-step above a quicktime event. [...] The sameyness of AAA games is forced by this graphics focus because trying to do provide anything but the simplest game mechanics with this level of graphics is impossible.

Yeah, was my impression of the gameplay we saw, and my worry about whether it will encourage that kind of design.

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