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Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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For the sake of discussion, which age would you want to pause at? 16, 24 for insurance reasons?

16 is way too young. Assuming brain development is paused at that age, society would descend into some kind of Lord of the Flies hellscape.

I would argue society is already a Lord of the Flies hellscape.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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Vaccines are also, themselves, not exactly GOOD for you. They're just eliciting an immune response in order to obtain immunological defense at a theoretically/hopefully lower cost than the alternative infection. Subjecting yourself to immune response, which for some vaccines can have high amount of reactogenicity, is having your body undergo heavy inflammation, a fair amount of tissue damage, etc. The people that jus…

I have a rare condition related to insulin resistance and diabetes, blood sugar spikes greatly worsen my health. Discovered that vaccines spike sugar prety significantly after getting my two shots this year. Won't be getting boosters anytime soon as the side effects were gruesome.

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Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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Fisetin is quite cheap and has been shown to eliminate senescent cells: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30279143/

I tried fisetin once. No obvious effects (I am 43 only), save one: in the week afterwards, I lost about 4 pounds of weight effortlessly.

Doses used in the Mayo Clinic trial was about 1.5g to 2g for humans, 5 days per month, iirc. Also keep in mind that if you are young and healthy you won’t notice much and it’s the kind of treatment like most that are long-term, meaning you can’t do it 3 months and expect results.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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Sign me up for this the second it is available. As an aside, to spite anti vaxxers I’m on a mission to get every vaccine I can. I want my bloodstream to be like the Library at Alexandria before it burned down.

An old friend of mine used to compare getting a vaccine to getting a power-up in Mario.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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It's probably not a good idea to get every single vaccines that's not recommended to you by the CDC/your doctor. Vaccines could potentially trigger some dangerous side effects, however rare it is.

don't drive cars, they can crash and it can be fatal while having other side effects, however rare they are.

I mean driving is easily the most dangerous thing people do on a daily basis. It's the leading cause of death for Americans under 55. You're not really making the point you think you are.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

#47

For the sake of discussion, which age would you want to pause at? 16, 24 for insurance reasons?

16 is way too young. Assuming brain development is paused at that age, society would descend into some kind of Lord of the Flies hellscape.

Speak for your own brain, I didn't make particularly impulsive decisions at that age nor at 40 do I have a problem with the logic behind the conclusions my 16 yo self made (I obviously had less data to draw from which wouldn't be an issue at year 50 of being 16). Just sayin'

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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For the sake of discussion, which age would you want to pause at? 16, 24 for insurance reasons?

16 is too young and you won't be able to do a lot of things unless you walk around with paperwork all the time. 24 sounds good but I'd pick 30 cause looking 30 people take you a bit more seriously. You will be able to relate more with people in their 30swhen you are 50 but look 30 than with people in their 20s. Of course in this hypothetical scenario if everyone is not aging then it all cahnges.

I bet that assessment would cease to be the case once we have gotten used to 100 year olds that look 16

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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Fisetin is quite cheap and has been shown to eliminate senescent cells: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30279143/

From reading that paper, the purpose of senescent cells is to prevent tumor growth. I don't know if I'd want to suppress or eliminate that functionality over a long period of time.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vaccines are also, themselves, not exactly GOOD for you. They're just eliciting an immune response in order to obtain immunological defense at a theoretically/hopefully lower cost than the alternative infection. Subjecting yourself to immune response, which for some vaccines can have high amount of reactogenicity, is having your body undergo heavy inflammation, a fair amount of tissue damage, etc. The people that jus…

I have a rare condition related to insulin resistance and diabetes, blood sugar spikes greatly worsen my health. Discovered that vaccines spike sugar prety significantly after getting my two shots this year. Won't be getting boosters anytime soon as the side effects were gruesome.

My parents both reported consistent elevated blood sugar levels after getting the Pfizer vaccine. Not sure if it was related or just coincidence, but there seem numerous reports of the same online. It should be temporary though.
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