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Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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For the sake of discussion, which age would you want to pause at? 16, 24 for insurance reasons?

16 is too young and you won't be able to do a lot of things unless you walk around with paperwork all the time. 24 sounds good but I'd pick 30 cause looking 30 people take you a bit more seriously. You will be able to relate more with people in their 30swhen you are 50 but look 30 than with people in their 20s. Of course in this hypothetical scenario if everyone is not aging then it all cahnges.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably not a good idea to get every single vaccines that's not recommended to you by the CDC/your doctor. Vaccines could potentially trigger some dangerous side effects, however rare it is.

don't drive cars, they can crash and it can be fatal while having other side effects, however rare they are.

Ignoring the sarcasm, more than 32,000 people are killed and 2 million are injured each year from motor vehicle crashes in the US. It’s no heart disease (600,000+ deaths - leading cause in the US) but for the healthy and young, it’s a leading cause of death/side effects (injury). So in some sense you’re probably right.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

#23

For the sake of discussion, which age would you want to pause at? 16, 24 for insurance reasons?

This doesn't work like that

it works cause its just a philosophical discussion at this point.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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For the sake of discussion, which age would you want to pause at? 16, 24 for insurance reasons?

16 is too young and you won't be able to do a lot of things unless you walk around with paperwork all the time. 24 sounds good but I'd pick 30 cause looking 30 people take you a bit more seriously. You will be able to relate more with people in their 30swhen you are 50 but look 30 than with people in their 20s. Of course in this hypothetical scenario if everyone is not aging then it all cahnges.

Yeah, maybe a separate question would be what the age would be if everyone in society was forced to pause at that age.

I wonder what immortal oligarchs would even do…

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

#25

For the sake of discussion, which age would you want to pause at? 16, 24 for insurance reasons?

16 is way too young. Assuming brain development is paused at that age, society would descend into some kind of Lord of the Flies hellscape.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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Sign me up for this the second it is available. As an aside, to spite anti vaxxers I’m on a mission to get every vaccine I can. I want my bloodstream to be like the Library at Alexandria before it burned down.

I’m with you. I’ve gotten vaccinated for everything my doctor lets me. Japanese Encephalitis? Pshaw. I don’t even know what it is, but good luck with my immune system.

It’s like getting a superpower in a video game!

And, vaccines have general positive effects of health: https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-innovation/en/horizon-maga...

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

#27

Sign me up for this the second it is available. As an aside, to spite anti vaxxers I’m on a mission to get every vaccine I can. I want my bloodstream to be like the Library at Alexandria before it burned down.

You already have the Library of Alexandria. That's your lymph nodes. What vaccines do is move some books to the front of the building, so your dentritic cells don't have to spend a few days finding them. You want the right books at the front. A mission to move all the books to the front is perhaps misguided.

I think it is more like the library of Borges, but with stuff that would interact with self culled.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

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Sign me up for this the second it is available. As an aside, to spite anti vaxxers I’m on a mission to get every vaccine I can. I want my bloodstream to be like the Library at Alexandria before it burned down.

It's probably not a good idea to get every single vaccines that's not recommended to you by the CDC/your doctor. Vaccines could potentially trigger some dangerous side effects, however rare it is.

Vaccines are also, themselves, not exactly GOOD for you. They're just eliciting an immune response in order to obtain immunological defense at a theoretically/hopefully lower cost than the alternative infection.

Subjecting yourself to immune response, which for some vaccines can have high amount of reactogenicity, is having your body undergo heavy inflammation, a fair amount of tissue damage, etc. The people that just treat vaccines like they're a wheatgrass shot is pretty strange.

Re: Japanese scientists develop vaccine to eliminate cells behind aging

#29
Imagine the costs of a vaccine that would make you immortal in the US? Surely not everyone would be able to afford it.

But then we could implement an immortality lottery, to give everyone a shot. That could be the devious slogan: “everyone gets a shot”. Devious because not everyone does, of course.

If you win you get the vaccine and live forever, but your friends and family aren’t included.

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