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Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Oracle for Startups gives 70% off for 2 years: https://www.oracle.com/startup/explore-the-program/

I wonder how many startups hit that 3.3x price increase at 25 months and scramble to move elsewhere because the costs were still higher than they should have been at 70% off?

It cost a lot to move elsewhere. Usually.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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The code is GPL, but the official Oracle binaries are not (since Oracle owns the copyright, they are free to release under multiple different licenses) and they use Oracle's predatory "free" licensing - you când download and run for free for 6 months, but you owe them money if you keep running those binaries after the moment the new version is released. There is no explicit enforcement mechanism - it's up to you to b…

So it can be avoided by compiling the code yourself?

Or just using a package manager like a normal person.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Some credit cards come with a feature where you can generate (and revoke) multiple numbers that charge your account. So you could generate a new one to use with a shady business, and then revoke the number after you are done with the business.

I have wanted this.

Privacy.com offers this service. It's good! Combine that with Firefox Relay for the emails and you're good to go!

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Quite a few negative replies [1], so here's a counterpoint -- Quite a few months back someone on here mentioned using the 24GB/4 core thing for a Minecraft server. While I knew Oracle had a cloud offering, I had never looked at it at all but this enticed me to give it a chance. Not for Minecraft, but lots of time I'm doing things like ETC1 compression of massive textures and I don't want to do it on my MBP. I signed…

Well. Seems like I have top comment at the moment and I’m definitely not trying to stop people from “having a good thing”.

If it works for you, I’m actually happy! More diversity in the cloud space is excellent.

But, I would feel bad if I didn’t share my experience and people got but the same as I did.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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There is no reasonable question for which “Oracle” is a good answer. The brand “Oracle” has rapidly evolved into a signal of “badness” in the same way as white mould on fruit, or chromatic slime on meat. Stay away!

> There is no reasonable question for which “Oracle” is a good answer.

"Which company's certifications should you go with, if you want to have a career in enterprise development or enterprise consulting?"

"Which database should you go with in an enterprise setting for governmental projects, if you know that you'll be out the door in 2 years and don't want to deal with back pressure from ops/management in the mean time?"

Though i get what you mean, for many those would also be red flags, such as not being allowed to use PostgreSQL due to some client's or organization's lack of experience with technologies like that and/or unwillingness to adopt anything new.

As the saying goes: "No one ever got fired for choosing IBM." where you can replace IBM with something else, depending on the regional and social circumstances (such as Oracle or MS products).

For example, in my country, many governmental systems still run on the old .NET and Windows servers, which utterly baffles me, since in my experience dealing with those servers is harder than it would be in something like Linux based distros (though personally i still think that Windows does desktops a bit better in workstations).

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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Is this even legal? In most jurisdictions, you have to be a government to fine anybody. Sending frivolous charges may be considered fraud and also lead to chargebacks.

In Europe, we don't use chargebacks in most cases. Unless the payment was truly fraudulent (i.e. you cannot get hold of someone who issued the payment or they are not in business of doing things they charged for), you have to use proper legal means of settling the dispute. As you may imagine, the life is too short for things of such kind, especially with multi-billion corps. Anyway, dug up the email: Please note that…

But here in Europe, we also have consumer protection departments that have teeth. As a company, you’d rather not get onto their radar too much.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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I played around with Oracles free tier. When you first sign up, you must choose a “home” region. You cannot add another region on the free plan. These awesome free instances are very limited stock. You have no way of knowing if the region you choose has stock of the desired instances before you select the region. You may not change your “home” region. You will get sales phone calls. Caveat emptor.

I've been using it for a year for one of their Ampere instances and haven't received any phone calls. Might be because I'm in the UK (region UK South (London)), I imagine they're much more call happy in countries where the laws are looser.

In the US. When you first sign up you are initially placed in a free trial. After the free trial period ends you fallback to the free tier. While in the free trial period I received one phone call which I let go to voicemail and besides the emails welcoming me to Oracle Cloud and regarding account creation I received 3 or 4 reminding me that the trial was ending and I would revert to the free tier. Since then, which has been months, I haven't received either calls or emails.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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post #184

Quite a few negative replies [1], so here's a counterpoint -- Quite a few months back someone on here mentioned using the 24GB/4 core thing for a Minecraft server. While I knew Oracle had a cloud offering, I had never looked at it at all but this enticed me to give it a chance. Not for Minecraft, but lots of time I'm doing things like ETC1 compression of massive textures and I don't want to do it on my MBP. I signed…

Well. Seems like I have top comment at the moment and I’m definitely not trying to stop people from “having a good thing”. If it works for you, I’m actually happy! More diversity in the cloud space is excellent. But, I would feel bad if I didn’t share my experience and people got but the same as I did.

For sure, and I'm not disputing your experience at all but there are hundreds of much vaguer "they're a bad company" style posts that don't have direct experience though.

It's entirely possible that they've improved some of the cost monitoring and management facilities as well. Under "Governance and Administration" you can set a budget -- notably budgets are alerts and not hard budgets, so one should act accordingly -- not only based on actual spend, but even for period forecast spend. It's a great rapid awareness if you accidentally enable a pay feature. There are also regularly updated graphs showing the daily spend charted by source of cost, along with multiple-per-day CSVs with billing details. Another way the Oracle cloud actually helps is that it actually isolates you to a single region (you have to go through a process to do otherwise), so it's harder to have the situation people would encounter on Amazon where they'd accidentally create some resource off in some other region and then it's effectively invisible but costly (though AWS now has the global dashboard that really improved that).

What is "free" or not could be clearer. For instance they have a terminology issue with a conflict between "Free tier" and "always free". Sometimes they use the former to refer to things during the trial period. Sometimes they use the latter to refer to resources that are free forever even after you've upgraded to an ostensibly pay account. It is confusing. And they make the two AMD instances just straight "always free", but for the ARM instance they give a monthly CPU/memory credit that allows you to run it for 31 days.

And then you have to search on various other things you regularly do figure out what is free or not, and that information is dispersed. For instance you can have so many volume images beyond which they are charged, etc.

Alas, I've been extremely pleased with the service. The console is a bit clunky in places but it works.

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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> Java Uh, whaaaat? I am a legit Java hater, but “friends don’t let friends use Java” is kinda a bizarre viewpoint. You know how much of our industry uses Java? I may prefer other languages but I’m not turning down a job based on them having settled on Java. It’s not PHP. :D

And php is even more popular ;)

Haha, touché

Re: Oracle Giving Away 4-Core 24 GB Memory Ampere Instances

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What are good technologies then?

Rust, obviously.

Kids these days and their toys.

You've never programmed until you program in assambler. Only than can you start contemplating the path to true mastery, imputting software into tha machine as binary using switches.

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