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Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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These espionage charges aren't about "Hillary's emails". https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/05/28/indictment...

I am not talking about Hillary's emails. He leaked diplomatic cables. [1] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wikileaks-releases-classifie...

So what? A private citizen has no obligation to secrecy.

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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post #135

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He leaked war crimes.

He leaked war crimes AND he leaked the information I mentioned.

He shouldn't be in prison and we should have a public holiday in his honor for informing the American public about the war crimes our government commits in our name and with our tax dollars.

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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To fully appreciate the context:

- he’s not a us citizen

- none of the “crimes” happened on US soil

- he’s a world famous journalist with prior work

- was charged with bogus crimes in Europe in an attempt to arrest him. All dropped

- the person who stole the files he released is already free and the tax payers paid for their transition

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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Thank you for the tactful disagreement and I appreciate your perspective. I also believe journalism is necessarily adversarial and should be allowed to exist with little encumbrance. However, I do think there is a line that needs to be drawn at some point as to what is journalism, versus what is propaganda for a specific agenda masquerading as journalism.

> However, I do think there is a line that needs to be drawn at some point as to what is journalism, versus what is propaganda for a specific agenda masquerading as journalism. Why does the intent/purpose of the publisher matter here in any way from a legal prospective? I fear that your opinion of his purpose is forming your opinion of its legality.

You do not draw a distinction in intent between informing the public and furthering the goals of a foreign adversary? Not saying he was, just an example, of how intent absolutely does matter from a legal perspective.

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We are creating really shameful times. History will not judge us lightly.

History is fiction in the not-fiction area. 95% is missing taken to the grave in silence and the 5% that is allowed to be there is embellished according to a reinforcing narrative agenda of a kind that sells enough copies to make it worthwhile.

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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Only in the sense of a Solzhenitsyn nightmare. There are breathing, ideologically-bent individuals pushing this. Who are they, and how do we hound them like they have hounded him.

> There are breathing, ideologically-bent individuals pushing this. Who are they… For starters, there are the majority of Americans who believe he should be extradited. (In second place, those who don’t care.)

majority of americans who are brainwashed by whatever they see on the mainstream media.

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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post #173

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I do not think it is a loss for freedom of the press, I think it is an opportunity for the courts to define what a journalist actually is, vs. not. Perhaps the courts will side with Assange and we will find that this is First Amendment protected activity. I personally do not believe it is, but I do think that this situation is a bit unique to modern times and is likely to set precedent one way or the other.

Russia also does this. Inconvenient journalists are designated "foreign agents", for instance. Redefining journalist can let you imprison any and every journalist.

Sure, that could happen and be the result out of all this. I think that is jumping to the worst possible conclusion though and the result will be a bit more nuanced than that.

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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What rotten people are driving this, and how do we hold them accountable?

we tried to sanction russia, but its hard when they used 0uppets to help railroad democracy

“Freedom of the press” isn’t about your favorite 2016 candidate.
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