You know what would be cool? If you could use driving mechanisms as the game controller, like those arcade racing machines but in a real car. Imagine playing Forza or Mario Kart in your Tesla. Given that it’s all electric, this should be doable, right?
That's a feature of many Tesla games. Now imagine your steering wheel stops steering the car due to a bug when your passenger fires up a game.
Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy
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#921. Smartphones allow video games while driving. 2. Isn't the intention to allow passengers to use the screen? 3. Idiots who don't pay attention to the road already don't pay attention to the road. They are text messaging, checking notifications, putting on makeup, playing candy crush on their phone, watching netflix on their phone, scrolling twitter, reading email, looking for podcasts and on and on.
On the other hand, if the driver decided to install their own game system so that they can drive and game at the same time - that would make it solely the driver's responsibility.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tesla autopilot use nowhere near competitive with a human driver, no matter what they claim. I'm bullish on self-driving in general, but Tesla's misrepresentation of their self-driving capability has always been just shy of "fraud".
This is true of surface streets: on freeways, even the older “Autopilot” is pretty good: I’ve driven on-ramp to off-ramp like 60 miles without a disengagement.
Even average drivers die about once every 100 million miles. AP is so far from that it isn't fair to try and compare. And that's just average drivers, which includes drunks, tired people, 16 year olds, weather-related accidents, etc. Put AP or FSD up against a normal, sober driver in decent weather and there's probably five or six orders of magnitude difference in competency.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
> incapable of performing anywhere near the level required to avoid accidents in the real-world. Humans, as well. 38,000 dead and 4,400,000 injured every year in the US due to car accidents. It would be cool to decide on a framework where FSD is tested/approved to be not perfect but better than the average human
> Humans, as well. 38,000 dead and 4,400,000 injured every year in the US due to car accidents. Yes. A society that valued both human life and evidence would ban cars entirely.
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I will accept some lies for desperately needed progress. And, as you mention, lying works. Where would we be without Tesla succeeding? Definitely not where we are today. Legacy automakers are still making half hearted efforts at electrifying transportation while Tesla increases production 100% YoY. Legacy auto would’ve made no effort without Tesla coming at them hard, versus the little bit of effort they show today.…
> Where would we be without Tesla succeeding? Hydrogen Fuel Cells and probably more widespread PHEVs. Which would have been a superior future than where we are today. 10-million cars with 200lbs of Li-ion batteries each would save more energy from our transportation network than 2-million cars with 1000lbs of Li-ion batteries each. ------ At this point. Elon is incredibly anti-progress. He's switched into fighting ag…
I am unconvinced by the case for hydrogen fuel cells or PHEVs.
10-million cars with 200lbs of Li-ion batteries each would save more energy from our transportation network than 2-million cars with 1000lbs of Li-ion batteries each.
The correct answer is the reduction of cars. Taking 10 million cars off the road and switching to public transit and higher density suburban and urban planning would save more energy in the long run.
At this point. Elon is incredibly anti-progress.
The best car is no car.
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#961. Smartphones allow video games while driving. 2. Isn't the intention to allow passengers to use the screen? 3. Idiots who don't pay attention to the road already don't pay attention to the road. They are text messaging, checking notifications, putting on makeup, playing candy crush on their phone, watching netflix on their phone, scrolling twitter, reading email, looking for podcasts and on and on.
Playing games on a system that's integral to the car is a benefit for passengers how exactly?
Laws exist to protect said idiots from themselves and others from them. The existence of idiots and bad behaviour does not mean that you further enable dangerous behaviour.
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#971. Smartphones allow video games while driving. 2. Isn't the intention to allow passengers to use the screen? 3. Idiots who don't pay attention to the road already don't pay attention to the road. They are text messaging, checking notifications, putting on makeup, playing candy crush on their phone, watching netflix on their phone, scrolling twitter, reading email, looking for podcasts and on and on.
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#98I can't even pair a new Bluetooth device while my car is in motion, even if it's a passenger doing it.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
> incapable of performing anywhere near the level required to avoid accidents in the real-world. Humans, as well. 38,000 dead and 4,400,000 injured every year in the US due to car accidents. It would be cool to decide on a framework where FSD is tested/approved to be not perfect but better than the average human
It doesn't need to be perfect but it needs to be a lot better than the "average" driver which includes intoxicated, fatigued, young, old, etc. drivers in all sorts of weather with many older vehicles with fewer safety systems and possible maintenance issues.
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#1001. Smartphones allow video games while driving. 2. Isn't the intention to allow passengers to use the screen? 3. Idiots who don't pay attention to the road already don't pay attention to the road. They are text messaging, checking notifications, putting on makeup, playing candy crush on their phone, watching netflix on their phone, scrolling twitter, reading email, looking for podcasts and on and on.
Of course, but it doesn't mean we have to be ok adding even more temptations.
How about we all just live in a bubble? That'll solve everything.
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Reaching for a cookie and violating your diet is not the same as forgetting to look at the fricken road.
Either way though, it's your personal responsibility. You can't sue the cookie company because you're a fat ass.