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The current base price of $39,490 is is 34,997$ in 2017 dollars when it was introduced. So not only where they selling at 35k for a while, in real terms they still are. https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview I'm seeing $44990 as the base price right now. There's no $35k Model 3, not in 2021 dollars, not in 2017 dollars. Not in inflation-adjusted dollars. Not available at all in any capacity.
This is a known tactic by Elon. He does something that is so incredibly outrageous knowing it will get denied but in doing so, it pushes your mental anchor so far out, that it allows him to "meet in the middle" to get something approved that would not have been approved otherwise if he hadn't anchored you so far out.
There is absolutely nothing outrageous about this. There's nothing wrong with the passenger playing a game. There are plenty of other distractions in the world, if you can't stop yourself from looking at a screen while driving, you shouldn't be driving in the first place. It's not the job of the car to stop you.
You know what would be cool? If you could use driving mechanisms as the game controller, like those arcade racing machines but in a real car. Imagine playing Forza or Mario Kart in your Tesla. Given that it’s all electric, this should be doable, right?
You know what would be cool? If you could use driving mechanisms as the game controller, like those arcade racing machines but in a real car. Imagine playing Forza or Mario Kart in your Tesla. Given that it’s all electric, this should be doable, right?
I can never bring myself to play them because I feel like I would look like an imbecile sitting in the car furiously turning the wheel while the car is parked.
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The current base price of $39,490 is is 34,997$ in 2017 dollars when it was introduced. So not only where they selling at 35k for a while, in real terms they still are. https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview I'm seeing $44990 as the base price right now. There's no $35k Model 3, not in 2021 dollars, not in 2017 dollars. Not in inflation-adjusted dollars. Not available at all in any capacity.
If the Feds clamp down on this, but not on FSD, then we'll know for sure that we have meme regulators. One of these is marginally worse than having access to a modern smartphone. The other literally drives the car, and has proven repeatedly that it is incapable of performing anywhere near the level required to avoid accidents in the real-world.
> incapable of performing anywhere near the level required to avoid accidents in the real-world. Humans, as well. 38,000 dead and 4,400,000 injured every year in the US due to car accidents. It would be cool to decide on a framework where FSD is tested/approved to be not perfect but better than the average human
Yes. A society that valued both human life and evidence would ban cars entirely.
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It doesn't need to be perfect but it needs to be a lot better than the "average" driver which includes intoxicated, fatigued, young, old, etc. drivers in all sorts of weather with many older vehicles with fewer safety systems and possible maintenance issues.
While I agree with you, it brings the moral/legal dilemma about who is responsible when FSD kills someone. I'd love to see all cars being on FSD and communicating with each other around, dropping deaths (and even minor accidents) to virtually zero though.
Outside of (to a certain degree) drugs (and tobacco, which is regulated and known to be harmful) there are very few consumer-facing products which used and maintained properly just randomly kill people sometimes--and we shrug our shoulders and say "stuff happens."
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https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#overview I'm seeing $44990 as the base price right now. There's no $35k Model 3, not in 2021 dollars, not in 2017 dollars. Not in inflation-adjusted dollars. Not available at all in any capacity.
It was always 35k with incentives.
In any case, "gasoline savings" is not an incentive.
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Classic populist modus operadi. Push the pendulum to one extreme and move the perceived middle ground along. He does the same with goal posts and timelines. I have to give it to him so, he gets away with it for years now. And he ultimately delivers product, something most Musk-wannabes fail to do.
> And he ultimately delivers product, something most Musk-wannabes fail to do. Where's are the solar roof? Battery swaps? And "coast-to-coast full self driving", $35,000 Model 3? Do you think the personal assistant robot will ever be a delivered product? ------- Musk has mastered the ability to make the public forget about his promises. He doesn't deliver on these promises at all. I think we're generally wising up to…
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