Surely if someone is killed (either the occupant or another driver or bystander) and the accident could be blamed on some kind of driver error or carelessness, or could have been avoided if the driver was more attentive.
Then if the driver was playing a game there would be a good legal case that they were distracted by it and Tesla could be deemed at least party responsible by providing that game in the front of the car - at least enough to be sued by the families for huge sums.
Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy
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#12If the Feds clamp down on this, but not on FSD, then we'll know for sure that we have meme regulators. One of these is marginally worse than having access to a modern smartphone. The other literally drives the car, and has proven repeatedly that it is incapable of performing anywhere near the level required to avoid accidents in the real-world.
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#13I'm quite happy as a passenger to play some games in tesla while on a road trip. Tesla's multi media center is a vision of phone-less experience in the car. I can see every day people swiping their phones, doing shopping while driving. In fact every 3rd 4th traffic light "sleeping" driver is due to the phone. How tesla games are that different from having a phone? Tesla at least doing some measures to prevent this. T…
Then use your phone as a passenger. I have trouble seeing visual distractions unrelated to driving like games, videos, or books on the console as anything other than an "attractive nuisance."
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#14This is a known tactic by Elon. He does something that is so incredibly outrageous knowing it will get denied but in doing so, it pushes your mental anchor so far out, that it allows him to "meet in the middle" to get something approved that would not have been approved otherwise if he hadn't anchored you so far out.
Classic populist modus operadi. Push the pendulum to one extreme and move the perceived middle ground along. He does the same with goal posts and timelines. I have to give it to him so, he gets away with it for years now. And he ultimately delivers product, something most Musk-wannabes fail to do.
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#15I'm quite happy as a passenger to play some games in tesla while on a road trip. Tesla's multi media center is a vision of phone-less experience in the car. I can see every day people swiping their phones, doing shopping while driving. In fact every 3rd 4th traffic light "sleeping" driver is due to the phone. How tesla games are that different from having a phone? Tesla at least doing some measures to prevent this. T…
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#16This is a known tactic by Elon. He does something that is so incredibly outrageous knowing it will get denied but in doing so, it pushes your mental anchor so far out, that it allows him to "meet in the middle" to get something approved that would not have been approved otherwise if he hadn't anchored you so far out.
Classic populist modus operadi. Push the pendulum to one extreme and move the perceived middle ground along. He does the same with goal posts and timelines. I have to give it to him so, he gets away with it for years now. And he ultimately delivers product, something most Musk-wannabes fail to do.
> And he ultimately delivers product, something most Musk-wannabes fail to do.
Where's are the solar roof? Battery swaps? And "coast-to-coast full self driving", $35,000 Model 3?
Do you think the personal assistant robot will ever be a delivered product?
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Musk has mastered the ability to make the public forget about his promises. He doesn't deliver on these promises at all. I think we're generally wising up to his game: Musk carefully SEO's his words and public image to make the internet itself forget about these claims.
Only people who actually rely upon their own personal memories (ie: the Battery Swap demo from 2013) can pull this information out. Otherwise, they're fogotten.
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In any case, this video-games while driving thing is just more of the 2016 claim of "coast to coast full self driving by 2018". He hasn't delivered upon the promise and needs to muck up the waters even more on the subject.
https://futurism.com/elon-musk-teslas-autonomous-car-will-dr...
> [Elon] said that the coast-to-coast test is still on track to take place at the end of the year, and that all Tesla cars built since October 2016 would be updated. The plan, announced in a Ted Talk last month, is to “go all the way from a parking lot in California to a parking lot in New York with no controls touched in the entire journey.”
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#17I'm quite happy as a passenger to play some games in tesla while on a road trip. Tesla's multi media center is a vision of phone-less experience in the car. I can see every day people swiping their phones, doing shopping while driving. In fact every 3rd 4th traffic light "sleeping" driver is due to the phone. How tesla games are that different from having a phone? Tesla at least doing some measures to prevent this. T…
My personal issue with this idea is that cars - presently, are driven by humans, and while we can look to the future, the present necessitates that we design by these standards.
Cars are methods of transportation (and even though I'm a car enthusiast, who enjoys driving) they should be driver focused. The center screen in a Tesla is where _all_ the information is available for the driver. There are no secondary gauges or other driver-specific controls or displays. The car, presently, should be oriented for the driver to pay the most attention to the vehicle, the road, and their surroundings.
If there's a display behind the driver, or solely on the passenger side of the vehicle out of sight and reach of the driver, then it can be presumed to operate for the passengers of the vehicle.
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#18Surely if someone is killed (either the occupant or another driver or bystander) and the accident could be blamed on some kind of driver error or carelessness, or could have been avoided if the driver was more attentive. Then if the driver was playing a game there would be a good legal case that they were distracted by it and Tesla could be deemed at least party responsible by providing that game in the front of the…
Generally the plaintiff must be less than 50% at fault to recover any damages.
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#19This is a known tactic by Elon. He does something that is so incredibly outrageous knowing it will get denied but in doing so, it pushes your mental anchor so far out, that it allows him to "meet in the middle" to get something approved that would not have been approved otherwise if he hadn't anchored you so far out.
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#20I'm quite happy as a passenger to play some games in tesla while on a road trip. Tesla's multi media center is a vision of phone-less experience in the car. I can see every day people swiping their phones, doing shopping while driving. In fact every 3rd 4th traffic light "sleeping" driver is due to the phone. How tesla games are that different from having a phone? Tesla at least doing some measures to prevent this. T…
Then use your phone as a passenger. I have trouble seeing visual distractions unrelated to driving like games, videos, or books on the console as anything other than an "attractive nuisance."
Luckily you're not my driver :) They split the screen no issues with that, with me driving or my partner. If you don't like it don't use it.
large amount of cars mount phones in the car, with all the notifications, phone calls etc.. It's far, far bigger problem compares to a game that make sense only on a highway few times a year.