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Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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They're preventing citizens from publishing that info, not looking around and measuring from what I found. Imagine a country that prevents its citizens from recording a song they hear and sharing it with their friends. Oh, wait, US more or less does that and forces other countries to implement policies that prevent it or they will ban trade with those countries.

>a country that prevents its citizens from recording a song... False analogy. No-one claims copy-write on the physical world. Well, not except the CCP.

That's not true. Building designs have copyrights as do skylines.

Eg the lights on that tower in france

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I think you misjudge how much the Anglophone world looks down on America, and Americans in general. We take great pride in Australia of our differences from that place. We're much more similar to the British (and them to us) than to the Americans.

... And yet there's a net brain drain to the US.

There's a brain drain to California, much of which has an even more negative view of the US than other countries.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Lockheed Martin is a private company with all sorts of laws on what they can and cannot do with foreign countries. It is not weird to create special categories for niche protected industries.

Would Lockheed Martin also be negociating tax breaks with Ireland and forefront line development costs of factories in Taiwan ? Or provide separated enclaves for EU countries ? Right now Apple is an international consumer company at its core, which makes its positioning a lot different than defense contractors or power producers for instance.

We used to regulate a lot more of consumer electronics ability to operate overseas, those restrictions have eased, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't come back if companies start to act irresponsibly.

Also, yes, Lockheed Martin does operate in different countries (Ireland included) and most likely does negotiate quite heavily with factories around the world.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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That is rather chilling, is it not? That a nation would prevent its citizens from looking around and measuring what they see? I can't help but wonder how the chickens will come home to roost.

No where near as chilling as to be constantly being anxious about your social score, getting disappeared for political speech, overstepping your bounds with a corrupt local government official, and a 100 other things.

Don't forget being disappeared for merely stating that you have been raped by someone who happens to be a powerful political figure.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Apple works with the US government too. Apple operates in China so it'd be prudent to work with the government for mutual benefit. I'm not sure I see why this is being framed as a bad thing.

There are two reasons.

1. The American government is the government where Apple has its HQ and most of its employees and C level.

2. The American government is not as bad as the Chinese government.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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I know this would never happen, but I wish companies would just default to not doing business in China, unless they are able to sell their product, uncompromised. I wouldn't mind legislation to that effect, though I'm sure that would come with a ton of unintended consequences. If China (and similar repressive regimes) wants these sorts of products with onerous restrictions built in, they should have to build them the…

I support that. At the same time I assume you have written this in a device manufactured in China together with many companies there object we have in our daily lives. Are enough of us willing to abstain from these devices?

Ah, that ol' "argument"

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Would be fascinating to see all of these discrepancies highlighted.

it's a practice reaching as far back as cartography itself

The old projections systems were even made to blow up what you cared about (your country) and be very scale-imprecised on the outskirt.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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That is rather chilling, is it not? That a nation would prevent its citizens from looking around and measuring what they see? I can't help but wonder how the chickens will come home to roost.

No where near as chilling as to be constantly being anxious about your social score, getting disappeared for political speech, overstepping your bounds with a corrupt local government official, and a 100 other things.

Or getting your organ harvested while in jail

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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That argument would be more appropriate if OSM was about something other than where the streets went.

Until 2000, the US reduced the accuracy of GPS for civilian applications. The UK removed street signs and railway station names in anticipation of German invasion in WWII. Kuwaitis removed street signs when Iraq invaded in 1990. 'Where the streets go' is strategically valuable information.

My understanding is that the resolution of commercially available satellite imagery is restricted by the US. I don't recall details, just passing references from the show "What on Earth?"

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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> Why would anyone hold such an assumption. Because that is what Tim Cook Apple's marketing and PR suggest Apple does. The force of good. Social Responsibility and Justice. Standing up against the government. ( They didn't explicitly say this but the message is something fairly similar ) Instead of creating "insanely" great product for our customers, friends and family. It is now about product that "enrich" people's…

I know a fair number of Americans who are over 50 years old, and appear fairly intelligent - but who, a while after each election, seem actually surprised and offended that the recently-elected politicians are not energetically living up to their campaign promises of squeaky-clean ethics, plentiful jobs, open & responsible government, etc. Do corporations have so much better a record of living up to feel-good marketi…

WHAT?? I'm over 50, and after 30+ years of voting and paying attention, have realized that politicians are by and large the lowest, sleaziest, most power-hungry and amoral creatures that can still perhaps be called human. I don't believe a word they say, and think that legislatures should be in session 90 days a year to figure things out and generally get their shit done, and the rest of the time they should have to live with the results of their decisions like the rest of us have to do.
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