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Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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So...local politicians, in a market where Apple was making money hand-over-fist, were feeling kinda used. By a huge foreign corporation. And the they started getting sticky on all sorts of regulatory things that Apple needed. Until Apple's CEO promised to do a bunch of "local investing" in their country. How different is this from the 1980's in the U.S., when Japanese auto makers decided that they needed to start bui…

Apple paid protection money. Pretty simple, no need to sugar coat it

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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At what point does something like this become a national security issue? I know these modern titans of industry answer to no one, but perhaps they should?

I find it interesting you see Apple a national asset needing special scrutiny. It might as well be true, but then you should also expect other countries to start dealing with Apple as a part of the US gov. and not a purely private party.

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Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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So...local politicians, in a market where Apple was making money hand-over-fist, were feeling kinda used. By a huge foreign corporation. And the they started getting sticky on all sorts of regulatory things that Apple needed. Until Apple's CEO promised to do a bunch of "local investing" in their country. How different is this from the 1980's in the U.S., when Japanese auto makers decided that they needed to start bui…

Apple paid protection money. Pretty simple, no need to sugar coat it

That’s what all government is: a racket.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Apple’s approach to China remains the most disappointing (and hypocritical) thing about the company. When privacy really matters for the users that need it most, Apple sells them out for continued access to the Chinese market.

https://stratechery.com/2021/the-information-on-apple-in-chi...

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple paid protection money. Pretty simple, no need to sugar coat it

That’s what all government is: a racket.

Life before nationstates was famously prosperous, safe, and enriching.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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At what point does something like this become a national security issue? I know these modern titans of industry answer to no one, but perhaps they should?

I find it interesting you see Apple a national asset needing special scrutiny. It might as well be true, but then you should also expect other countries to start dealing with Apple as a part of the US gov. and not a purely private party.

Lockheed Martin is a private company with all sorts of laws on what they can and cannot do with foreign countries. It is not weird to create special categories for niche protected industries.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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At what point does something like this become a national security issue? I know these modern titans of industry answer to no one, but perhaps they should?

I think it became a security issue when Apple bent to China's desire to keep iCloud servers in a domestic datacenter. If Apple gives up control so willingly for a foreign nation, one can only imagine how deeply in bed they are with American intelligence agencies.

National security issue, though? The US government has no desire to call Apple on security or privacy. Doing so would be a pure disadvantage for them.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Apple’s approach to China remains the most disappointing (and hypocritical) thing about the company. When privacy really matters for the users that need it most, Apple sells them out for continued access to the Chinese market. https://stratechery.com/2021/the-information-on-apple-in-chi...

Is Stratechery's paywall new? I'm surprised to see one from an author who writes in a voice that aspires to reach the world.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Apple’s approach to China remains the most disappointing (and hypocritical) thing about the company. When privacy really matters for the users that need it most, Apple sells them out for continued access to the Chinese market. https://stratechery.com/2021/the-information-on-apple-in-chi...

Is Stratechery's paywall new? I'm surprised to see one from an author who writes in a voice that aspires to reach the world.

Ah I didn't realize this was a daily one (I subscribe) - he does a mixture of free and not free. I think the subscription is worth it though.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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So...local politicians, in a market where Apple was making money hand-over-fist, were feeling kinda used. By a huge foreign corporation. And the they started getting sticky on all sorts of regulatory things that Apple needed. Until Apple's CEO promised to do a bunch of "local investing" in their country. How different is this from the 1980's in the U.S., when Japanese auto makers decided that they needed to start bui…

1. was done in secret

2. traded seemingly unrelated investments aka you can build your computers if you invest in our SAAS

3. technology transfer may be a violation of us export controls

Its really not obvious if the Chinese win because it's an extremely opaque way to choose winners and losers.

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